Lit Exar Kun's Lightsaber Form

It's said to be Niman, but his fighting style made no resemblance beside maybe his dual wielding. Niman is about balance and subtle control, use the Force directly to finish some moves. Kun's fighting style is obviously very aggressive, focus on attack and we don't see him use the Force directly in lightsaber combat. Juyo or Ataru would fit better.

 

Isn't Niman, the "Diplomat's style" also a rather new one?

 

Honestly I think there are traces of Shien/Djem-So in the style. The way he fights is all about dominating his opponent, and I think his duel with Voda is a perfect example. He wins by using enough physical force, enough raw power to completely shatter Vodo's defense.

 

He is a master of Niman, master Jar-kai specialist and extremely proficient Juyo user, he probably uses these in unison, replacing the moderation of Niman with the almost nutjob like aggression of Juyo. Combine the dual wielding capabilities of Niman with the viciousness of Juyo and then throw in the fact he randomly increased and decreased his lightsaber blades' lengths and would sometimes engage with only one blade activated and at a precise moment activate the second blade, we've basically got a master duellist, he's a combination of different forms and specialisations.

 

Might be interesting to see a "style timeline" showing when each style came into vogue and why. I think Form II- Makashi, was supposed to date from when the adversary the Jedi were most worried about was a saber-wielding opponent, and Form III- Soresu, was supposed to be for when it was blasters that were most commonly used against them?

 

Ever seen the guy's lightsaber? How does he swing the thing around without killing himself?



His fighting style is either very crazy, or really, really stupid.

 

He's a Sith, of course he's crazy, but he's also probably the best duellist of the entire era, so I imagine he designed his weapon specifically to benefit himself.

 

Does this post also apply to Maul?

 

Considering Maul's was a full double-bladed length hilt, instead of a single-blade length hilt like Kun's, I imagine not.

 

Exar Kun's lightsaber form? Whatever it was, I'm sure it was filled out in duplicate.

 

Didn't Kun just add a second emmitter to the pommel which made the hilt only marginally longer than a standard hilt. I am sure it said in the essential guide to weapons and tech (1st ed) that the whole thing operated on a single set of blue crystals which is different to Maul's 'pommell to pommell' lightsaber which is basically two sets of internal components housed within one elongated hilt.

Kun's was a more complex version and Maul's is the imitation, the sincerest form of flattery.

Kun seems to use one blade up until the duel with Vodo in the senate, until he unleashes the second blade. I would say he uses Djem So, based on no source other than observation of how his combat style is depicted in comics

 

In his first fight with Vodo, as a trainee, he uses two lightsabers, successfully.

 

I'd say hes one of the few who really dedicated himself to Niman, and because that style itself already combines elements from Forms 1 to 5, I'd say that mastery gave him unprecedented levels of speed, agility, power and overall versatility. You're right in saying he doesn't really combine Force powers into his style which is typically a staple of Niman and he seems to be a LOT weaker when disarmed.

 

Dunno about his swordsmanship, but his arm wrestling needs work.

 

Exar! You son of a...

 

The hilt size I think was just a mistake on the part of the artist not really thinking much on the matter. Ray park said when he was shown what his lightsaber would look like it was of single hilt size. he told them he would not get much leverage on it so they made it bigger(He said he was quite proud of making that one contribution tot he SW universe).

And that is was cool pic isn't it?

 

I'd say it's unlikely his style is Djem So. His weapon does not suit a style that favors power strikes, due to aforementioned lack of leverage. Niman doesn't really make much sense to me either just based on the fact he seems radically different from any other Niman users we're familiar. Juyo seems a better fit for him.

 

I thought lightsaber forms lacked any sort of consistency to them considering that Ray Parks and Samuel L Jackson are said to have the same form, as are Liam Neeson and Frank Oz's disembodied voice, and are effectively meaningless in practical terms, thus making Exar Kun's use of Form VI: Niman, otherwise known as the garbage form, completely believable.

 

Fair point in regards to the movies, but the lightsaber forms ARE an invention of the EU. Why they decided to tell us that Neeson of all people used the same form as Yoda, I have no idea.

 

I think it's important to remember that Niman gets a bad reputation because almost all of its wielders half-anyx it. The majority of the Jedi Knights who got killed during the Battle of Geonosis were Niman practitioners because the other lightsaber masters thought the lightsaber style was "insufficiently demanding." I think that's merely an expression of the fact mastery was bestowed upon individuals who hadn't dedicated themselves sufficiently to the style's subtleties. I think anyone who dual-wields lightsabers with Form VI and isn't making a fool of himself (ala Anakin in Episode II with that -4 penalty for an extra attack) is actually going to be an exceptionally dangerous opponent.

I'd also like to point out Diplomacy as done by Sith can be lethal (see Palpatine).

 

i think vaapad can be juyo but juyo can never be vaapad.

 

Nah Leland canonized that they're interchangeable because Karpyshyn goofed.

 

Really? That seems odd, since Karpyshyn himself said WTTE of "Oops, my bad, just pretend it says Juyo".

Bah.

 

This is why we can't have nice things.

Edit: might be unduly harsh on Leland, pretty sure it was Dan Wallace in Book of Sith.

 

Damn it, Dan Wallace, how are you so bad at Sith history but so good at everything else?

Edit: Wokieepedia says that retcon comes from an article in Insider 92.