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Explain to me the origins of the phrase "Sammich" and why people on the internet use it.

Discussion in 'Archive: Your Jedi Council Community' started by Andalite-Bandit, Aug 12, 2007.

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  1. Andalite-Bandit

    Andalite-Bandit Jedi Padawan star 6

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    Ever since I first joined the internet message board scene, I have observed people using the word "Sammich" to refer to the food item "Sandwich." This has confused me for several years but for some reason I never thought to look into the matter. I have now decided the time has come for me investigate this issue and to find out if there is an answer at all, or if it is just one of those things that are so old it has become second nature, and that the origins are lost to history.

    Yes, I mentioned this in another thread today, but nobody responded, so I felt it is a matter deserving of its own thread.

    So to reiterate the question at hand, why do people on the internet call sandwiches "sammiches"?

    Is this an internet only joke, or am I missing out on a reference to a movie or television character? Is there meaning to the term "sammich" or is it simply am amusing sounding word, without necessarily having any other layers of meaning?

    Am I ridiculous for not knowing why people say sammich, or is this something nobody knows?

    Begin investigating/telling me the answer to this riddle.
     
  2. Grand_Admiral_Grant

    Grand_Admiral_Grant Ex-Mod star 6 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    Al Gore invented it. Like everything on the internet and the internet itself.
     
  3. timmoishere

    timmoishere Force Ghost star 6

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    Sammich is easier to say than sandwich, I guess. Same reason why people say "comfterble" rather than "comfortable."
     
  4. droideka27

    droideka27 Manager Emeritus star 7 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    I vote it is because people are dumb.
     
  5. poor yorick

    poor yorick Ex-Mod star 6 VIP - Former Mod/RSA VIP - Game Host

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    I'm fairly sure we had this discussion a few months back. :p I think the general consensus was that most American speakers drop the "d" in "sandwich" but not the "n."

    "Sammich" is probably a popular joke term because most people don't say it that way, and therefore the rest of us feel safe in mocking the few people who do turn "nd" into "m."

    If Terr_Mys was around, I'm sure he could tell us the phonological rules that went into shifts from whatever the original pronunciation was to "sanwich," "sammich," and "sangwich," which I recall was the most universally-hated way to say that word. :p
     
  6. CitizenKane

    CitizenKane Jedi Youngling star 3

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    Problem located.
     
  7. DarthNotsonice

    DarthNotsonice Jedi Master star 5

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    It's not internet only,I live in the Southeastern US and I hear people
    call that particular food item sammich on a fairly regular basis.
     
  8. Andalite-Bandit

    Andalite-Bandit Jedi Padawan star 6

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    As a joke???
     
  9. DarthNotsonice

    DarthNotsonice Jedi Master star 5

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    No with a complete lack of jest or levity.
    growed folks too,folks who oughta know better.[face_frustrated]
     
  10. Jedi_Johnson

    Jedi_Johnson Jedi Grand Master star 5

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    Shut up and make me a sammich fool!



    :p
     
  11. deltron_zero

    deltron_zero Jedi Master star 6

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    there was an actual restaurant in my town called "banjo's sammich co.". it didn't last very long.
     
  12. DarthNotsonice

    DarthNotsonice Jedi Master star 5

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    [face_laugh]
     
  13. Terr_Mys

    Terr_Mys Jedi Grand Master star 6

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    Am I so predictable? :(

    Most people drop the 'd' in fast speech because it's easier to pronounce the two sonorants 'n' and 'w' without an obstruent 'd' between them.

    'Sammich' is taking things a step further, but it's used by a much smaller group of people. In this case, people combine the nasal quality of 'n' with the labial quality of 'w' to make a single sound, the nasal labial 'm'.

    I don't think I've heard anyone say 'sangwich' before, but it does make sense to an extent. Instead of combining the 'n' and 'w', people insert a 'g' between them as an articulatory 'bridge' of sorts. This is similar to how people often pronounce "something" as "somepthing."

    ...the more you know.

    Edit - So at any rate, people use 'sammich' for comic effect because over-simplified pronunciations sound stupid, and therefore funny, to us. Just as a posh Englishman who fully pronounces the 'd' in 'sandwich' sounds intelligent.
     
  14. DarthNotsonice

    DarthNotsonice Jedi Master star 5

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    pronounced sump'm in the Southeastern US,especially in Gehstonya.[face_mischief]
     
  15. plo_koom

    plo_koom Jedi Knight star 5

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    It's Hork-Bajir language.
     
  16. Bacon164

    Bacon164 Chosen One star 8

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    It's a symbol of Lord Fishifort's return to power, I tell you!!!
     
  17. Jedi_Reject_Jesse

    Jedi_Reject_Jesse Force Ghost star 7

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    There was a thread on this a while ago. [face_plain]
     
  18. plo_koom

    plo_koom Jedi Knight star 5

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    I remember it, too.
     
  19. Angel_Jedi_Master

    Angel_Jedi_Master Jedi Knight star 6

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    Isn't it a reference to "Sandford and Son" or something?
     
  20. DarthFacetious

    DarthFacetious Jedi Knight star 6

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    "Sangwitch" is usually pronounced in the areas where Spanglish is commonly used. I don't know why, but I've heard it all my life, although I have personally never used that pronunciation.
     
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