I've watched and read some theories that the next films will show flashbacks involving Kylo Ren with Han etc but does anyone else agree that flashbacks don't seem right for StarWars? I mean there hasn't been a single flashback in any of the films so far. The only way I see those kind of back stories being shown is through visions and dreams.
Rey's vision is about the closest thing to a flashback SW has so far that I feel fits the atmosphere. Maybe a holovid or something, some kind of recording could be used. If it's something like flashing from one scene to another with "3 years later" or somthing written on the bottom, that would definitely take me out I really think it depends on how it's done. I also think it depends on how in-depth with the writing Johnson wants it; Abrams tends to take sort of the minimalist approach in terms of exposition and background setup, so Episode VIII might have a lot of explaining to do that, by Episode IX, would be a bit "too late" so to speak to just explain it then
Correct. Flashbacks don't really belong in Star Wars. The reason is that Star Wars has a driving narrative to it and flashbacks are designed to break driving narratives in order to inform the viewer of things that have happened in the past. Its incongruous to the natural flow of a Star Wars film, which is basically to drop you in the world and chain events together in rising action until the climax. The 'vision' should be as close as they ever get to doing flashbacks.
There wasn't a way for the OT to have flashbacks because the back story wasn't mapped out yet. In the PT we don't need one. It's okay for them to be in the ST.
Right, flashbacks are not really a Star Wars thing for the reasons listed above. I think everyone working on these films knows that and visions are a convenient work around. I do worry that visions may become a little too overused, though.
I think it could work in the right context, but so many people would be opposed to it they'd probably have to dance around it. If they wanted to show a whole scene or snippets of one they could do something like a holocron that projects a hologram all around the room so you see the characters' images where they were whenever the event took place. Or another "force back".
Flashbacks fit with Star Wars as long as they're done well. But they're not really necessary because there are Force visions that accomplish the same thing.
Yeah I mean Rey's Force Vision was basically a kind-of flashback, but not really (since Pablo Hidalgo has hinted that she might not just be seeing the past, but the future as well). I kind of want those to become an ongoing thing with her, a power that she has but cannot really control.
I'm with Kefo on this one. I think there is a great possibility ep8 starts with a flashback. I can't see it happening during the film unless it is a vision again.
How could it open with a flashback? They all start with a crawl then the camera pans down through space to an event in real time, I hope they don't change that. How would that kind of flashback transition back to real time? It wouldn't work at all.
I don't see any problems with the use of flashbacks in Star Wars. If anything, I think that might be the 'completely new thing' to Star Wars Rian Johnson has discussed. It would fit well with the setup in The Force Awakens. Rey, Finn, and Kylo Ren all have backstories to be filled in to an extent. It could be done through exposition, but flashbacks would make those scenes more dynamic and would alleviate one of people's major complaints about the prequels. Flashbcks can actually make for a stronger story, depending on how they're used. Just look at the first few seasons of Lost (produced by JJ Abrams) or The Godfather Part II as an example of 'flashbacks done right'.
I think it could be really cool if the movie opened with a flashback before we even see the "A long time ago" line Then at the end of the flash back it either fades to black or pans up to the starfield and the the movie-proper begins I'm all for them bending rules with the new movies. If wee stick to all these "Star Wars movies don't do this or that" rules than we're just painted into a corner. If it's done right it's done right!
Why straightjacket to writers with such rules? "Star Wars doesn't... Star Wars has always..." will lead too boring stories. So much backstory was hinted at in TFA that has to be resolved somehow. It might Luke giving a boring exposition lecture. Or, they can show us. I'm fine with Luke saying, "I will never forget that night..." and the screen does that wobbly blurry go back in time effect...
Maybe Luke could show her by projecting it with the force. Just by touching her shoulder or something. Maybe with some flawless dialogue it wouldn't be needed but showing us is almost always the better choice in my opinion.
They could do it through a vision or somebody watching a holo security cam or something. But no regular flashbacks, that would not work and would throw off the whole feel.
Does somebody have a gif of the Wayne's World flashback effect? Cuz that's the one that I would love to see never happen in a SW movie.
A flashback in "Star Wars" would be like seeing a prequel in the sequel of the Original Trilogy. Eek! I agree with the idea of a vision. Luke had one and so did Rey, so it's not too out of the ballpark. Another option is that R2D2 shows images from the past. This would make sense if they're still going with Lucas' original idea that the story of the Skywalker family is being retold hundreds of years later for the Journal of the Whills by R2D2. (Since they included an excerpt from the Journal in the novelization, then I think they're keeping it!)
Yeah but they kind of screwed that up by having BB-8 being the main droid in this past episode and R2 was sleeping in safe mode.
