Force Bonds

I've never been that big on comics so the only real exposure I have to the KOTOR era is through the games so I'm not sure if its been given any further enlightenment either in comics or in the RPG books.

Anyways there any light on Force bonds and how they occur? I find it interesting that the only bonds people ever speak of (In univerise wise) is that between Jacen and Jaina, Bastila and Revan, and [Insert KOTOR 2 main character name] and Kreia. I know its said that there is a bond between master and padawan which really isn't all that surprisng, but is it possible to have a bond with a non-Jedi (Han and Leia for instance)? Perhaps a watered down version of the bond? Since we're on the subject of Force Bonds how much does it take for a Bond to become lethal?

 

I was under the impression that force bonds occurred when two force sensitives go through some sort of stressful event together (like Kreia and the exile)or are around eachother for an extended period of time (like master and padawan). No idea how it could become life-threatening though.

 

Luke and Mara obviously have one.

 

Luke and Leia have a twin Force bond.

 

Well Jaina bonds with the other jedi pilots on some level.what the exile and kreia had was something different because they could not break their bond.

 

jaina's bond is a battle meld, though she has a force bond with Jacen, here's a discription of the force bond from the rpg;

well actually its 'life bond', but this is according to WEG, i don't think there's a WotC equivalent

A Jedi character may choose the life bond power to permanently form a mental link with other individual, normally a mate (although sometimes siblings, parent and child, or even very close friends choose to life bond).

Detailed information can be learned by activating the power. If both character have the life bond power, reduce all sense difficulties by one level (although both characters must still roll for life bond to achieve the benefits listed below). The following benefits are only in effect when the characters are actively using the life bond power.

On an Easy sense roll, the Force-user is aware the other's general location and general emotional state: whether the person is firghtened, in pain, injured, happy, or experiencing some other strong emotion.

On a Moderate sense roll, the Force-user experiances the other's senses: he or she sees through the other's eyes, hears what the other hears, and smells, tastes, and feels what the other person is experiencing. However, at this level, the characters are affected by each other's experiences -- both characters share pain, and if one character is injured, the other character suffers an injury one level lower (i.e., if one character is mortally wounded, the life-bonded character is incapacited).

On a Difficult sense roll, the Force-user is considered telepathically linked to the life bond partner and can read the surface thoughts of the other if the other is willing to share those thoughts ( as per the receptive telepathy power, but this is not an additional skill roll).

On a Very difficult sense roll, the Force-user can send thoughts to the life-bonded partner (as per the projective telepathy power), allowing the characters to carry on a telepathic conversation.

As an added benefit, the two characters can have premonitions about each other: for example, if one character is severely injured, his or her life bond partner will sense that something bad has happened. This aspect of the life bond power is modified by proximity only, as outline below. Senseing premonitions is automatic if withing 11,000 kilometers of each other. If on the same planet but more than 1,000 kilometers from each other, a Very Easy sense roll is necessary to sense premonitions. If not on the same planet but in the same star system, an Easy sense roll is necessary to sense premonitions. If not in the same star system but within 10 light-years, a Moderate sense roll is reqired. If more than 10 light-years but less than 100 light-years away, a Difficult sense roll is necessary. If more than 100 light-years away from each other, a Very Difficult sense roll is necessary.

Life-bonded characters may not share skills, attributes, Force Points, or Character Points. However, since the characters do have such a close blond, the actions of one can affect the other. If a life-bonded character commits an evil action, the Jedi partner recieves a Dark Side Point even though these actions were not the Jedi's fault. Obviously, life bonding is an exceedingly serious commitment, and not to be taken lightly.

Both characters must agree to the life bodn for the power to work and a character may only life bodn with one other individual. Life boding takes 1D weeks to complete (as the Jedi becomes accustomed to the background Force presence of the life bond partner). During that time, the Jedi's control is -1D. The life bond power may not be activated until the ebond is completely formed.

Death is the only means of severing the life bond. If one member of a life-bonded couple is killed, the surviving partner enters a near-catatonic state of shock of 1D days. After re-awakening, the partner grieves and readjusts to a solitary existance; all die codes are reduced by -1D for the same amount of time it took to forge the life bond.

Any attempt to forge a new life

 

It seems as if Anakin Solo was bonded to his family, considering his death hit them all so hard through the Force.

 

Yoda also senses the death of jedi in RotS.So i think death is something so great that all force-sensitives who are close to that person can feel

 

Skywalker and Jade have a bond, 007-class. Bastila and yourself formed one from working close together. A Sithling and its master would have an intense one too.

Venture, it's nothing more complicated than a husband-wife thing, or parent-offspring. You get close to someone, you become empathic with them to a varying level.

 

Thats some interesting information from that RPG source.

Now that the spoiler policy has been removed, now for the true intent of this thread.

Is it possible Anakin and Padme had developed a Force bond to such an extent that he was using her life energy to sustain himself after being burned alive? It would explain how she died (somewhat better) and also help explain how they were looking out the windows at each other from the temple and their home. Right before he decided to go to the aid of Palpatine.

 

EV: I was suspecting pretty much the same thing, though I wondered if Padmé wasn't willingly trying to keep him alive - the third alternative is some sort of Ssi-ruuk-style entechment of her energy being controlled by Palpatine...

And w00t! The RotS spoiler-ban is gone, the oppressive fascist modding is over - ahh, it feels good again. The shroud of the Dark Side has been lifted!

- The Imperial Ewok

 

I don't think so, She wasn't force sensitive after all...

 

She wouldn't have to be force sensitive to get her life energy sucked away by her hubby. At least I don't think so. I'm also unsure if that ability (if it even exists) works over such long distances.

That is an interesting theory there about some sort of Ssi-Ruuk style device. Perhaps Anakin placed it on her spirit when he choked her?

And willingly keeping him alive? Now that is something that I'd never thought of. . . and yet it is plausible.

 

Anakin and Padme seemed to have had one.

 

Don't you think Padme and Anakin had a force bond? Usually if you have a force bond with someone you see visions with or about them and Anakin did see Padme die in a vision. Also Palpatine tells Vader that his anger led to Padme's death. Anyone agree with me?

 

Usually if you have a force bond with someone you see visions with or about them and Anakin did see Padme die in a vision. Also Palpatine tells Vader that his anger led to Padme's death. Anyone agree with me?


Just because someone can see another in a vision doesn't mean that there's a Force bond. Did Luke have a Force bond with Cloud City -- "I saw a city in the clouds" -- nope, he just had a vision of the future, a premonition.

as for Palpatine telling Vader that his anger led to Padme's death... Palpatine is right from a certain point of view, but also is yanking Vader's chain a bit. He doesn't seem to mention that Padme dies in childbrith as Anakin foresaw, but because of a lack of will to live.

EV: Interesting theory... Vader sapping Padme's life to save his own... makes her last words even more ironic...

it might be tough to try the sap-life-force trick when the target is far away (ie leaving Mustafar for the asteroid base)...

 

i don't think there was a force bond, and i think padme just died as she was going to, I don't think Anakin's scream had anything to do it. It was just done to create an effect

 

I think Padme ansd Anakin force bonded.

She can sense his presence as he looks in on her with the force, she turns around and wonders why he's there, and sees through his eyes when he's in the Jedi Council Chambers. She must be bonded to him.

 

Not likely.

How does one with supernatural radar be unaware there's twins inside your wife's belly, mmm?

 

Because she told him and he agreed not to probe her because she wanted to be surprised.

 

Did that come from the movie? Haven't seen it yet.

If so . . . Still, those are long months. That's a bit of a stretch. If I was telempathic, no one would be clothed around me.

 

It doesn seem to be something that is specifically strong in families. Plo Koon is able to communicate with/through Sha (with added help from the Jedi Council) during the Stark Hyperspace War.

 

well if they have a force bond then Amidala got every single dark side point Anakin got up until her death. And she wouldn't get any of the benefits to the power that some of you have suggested because she isn't force sensitive

 

Yeah I'm not saying Anakin's NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO had anything to do with it.

And I don't know how Anakin believed there was just one child, he's got the Force. I guess he could've kept it secret like Padme wanted, but still. . .

I don't think Force bonds means if one person goes dark the other person has to go dark as well. Especially when the other person isn't Force sensitive (that we know of). I admit it would be kinda hard to sap someones life energy from such a long distance, but Jedi can communicate with each other through the Force over even longer distances so I imagine it is possible.