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Fox News can't move to Canada because Canada has a law against lying through the news

Discussion in 'Archive: Your Jedi Council Community' started by VadersLaMent, Mar 1, 2011.

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  1. VadersLaMent

    VadersLaMent Chosen One star 10

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    As America's middle class battles for its survival on the Wisconsin barricades -- against various Koch Oil surrogates and the corporate toadies at Fox News -- fans of enlightenment, democracy and justice can take comfort from a significant victory north of Wisconsin border. Fox News will not be moving into Canada after all! The reason: Canada regulators announced last week they would reject efforts by Canada's right wing Prime Minister, Stephen Harper, to repeal a law that forbids lying on broadcast news.


    Canada's Radio Act requires that "a licenser may not broadcast....any false or misleading news." The provision has kept Fox News and right wing talk radio out of Canada and helped make Canada a model for liberal democracy and freedom. As a result of that law, Canadians enjoy high quality news coverage including the kind of foreign affairs and investigative journalism that flourished in this country before Ronald Reagan abolished the "Fairness Doctrine" in 1987. Political dialogue in Canada is marked by civility, modesty, honesty, collegiality, and idealism that have pretty much disappeared on the U.S. airwaves. When Stephen Harper moved to abolish anti-lying provision of the Radio Act, Canadians rose up to oppose him fearing that their tradition of honest non partisan news would be replaced by the toxic, overtly partisan, biased and dishonest news coverage familiar to American citizens who listen to Fox News and talk radio. Harper's proposal was timed to facilitate the launch of a new right wing network, "Sun TV News" which Canadians call "Fox News North."



    Harper, often referred to as "George W. Bush's Mini Me," is known for having mounted a Bush like war on government scientists, data collectors, transparency, and enlightenment in general. He is a wizard of all the familiar tools of demagoguery; false patriotism, bigotry, fear, selfishness and belligerent religiosity.

    Harper's attempts to make lying legal on Canadian television is a stark admission that right wing political ideology can only ?


    Where are the JCC Canadians at? Tell us!
     
  2. Katana_Geldar

    Katana_Geldar Jedi Grand Master star 8

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    I may not be from Canada, but I always watch Fox News when I want to laugh at the expense of someone else's lack of intelligence. What's Fox News response?
     
  3. Im_just_guessing

    Im_just_guessing Jedi Knight star 7

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    Canada.
     
  4. DT421

    DT421 Jedi Grand Master star 5

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    People still go to news stations/networks for the truth? lol

    I gave that up years ago.

    True story.
     
  5. GrandAdmiralJello

    GrandAdmiralJello Comms Admin ❉ Moderator Communitatis Litterarumque star 10 Staff Member Administrator

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    They'll be here as soon as their bandwidth quota resets.
     
  6. Katana_Geldar

    Katana_Geldar Jedi Grand Master star 8

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    Where are they supposed to go then?
     
  7. Spider-Fan

    Spider-Fan Jedi Master star 4

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    While the CRTC might not want to allow dishonest reporting on the airwaves, biased media in Canada is hardly unheard of (most of the major papers are famous for which way they lean). Its a shame however that there is a movement away from honest media, apparently lead by the Conservatives.
     
  8. Katana_Geldar

    Katana_Geldar Jedi Grand Master star 8

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    Okay, I have to ask the obvious question: why is there a move against honest media?????

    People actually want to be lied to, or to lie to other people?

    What sort of country do you people live in?
     
  9. Obi-Zahn Kenobi

    Obi-Zahn Kenobi Force Ghost star 7

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    This article hardly sounds unbiased.
     
  10. Spider-Fan

    Spider-Fan Jedi Master star 4

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    Its a movement by a single party that presently holds parliamentary power to allow media that would help further their agenda. Please don't paint the rest of us with such broad strokes. As the article states Canadians protested the move.
     
  11. KnightWriter

    KnightWriter Administrator Emeritus star 10 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    So? Sounds like pointing out various truths in the media isn't the lost art in Canada that it is here.
     
  12. Katana_Geldar

    Katana_Geldar Jedi Grand Master star 8

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    It defeats the entire purpose of the word "media". Can I just say this? Downunder, TV Networks doing this thing is almost unheard of, and if it does happen people get jumped on rather quickly. While I will say some media has a bias towards certain points of view, actually using them like that is paramount to propaganda.

    I don't say you all are like that, far from it as I've learned a lot talking to you guys. But the fact that things like that happen as a matter of course really makes me wonder about the craziness over there.
     
  13. GrandAdmiralJello

    GrandAdmiralJello Comms Admin ❉ Moderator Communitatis Litterarumque star 10 Staff Member Administrator

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    More to the point, having an opinion isn't bias.

    edit: Katana, I'm been to Hobart--plenty of crazy there too. :p
     
  14. Ramza

    Ramza Administrator Emeritus star 10 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    Yeah, but had this been posted by, say, Lassic, we would've gotten bolded passages by conservative commentators talking about how Canada is impinging free speech yadda yadda this is the worst thing since Hitler yadda yadda. I'll take this version, thanks.:p
     
  15. Spider-Fan

    Spider-Fan Jedi Master star 4

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    You wonder why a political party would fudge the rules to allow media to better favour them?? Not that I am for it, but I would think their motivations are pretty evident.
     
  16. Katana_Geldar

    Katana_Geldar Jedi Grand Master star 8

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    Yeah, but Tassie craziness is more the far-left, hairy armpit, NIMBY sort that doesn't get taken seriously outside the state. It's hardly representative. ;)

    EDIT: Spider-Fan, I am so close to breaking Godwin's Law, you know...
     
  17. Spider-Fan

    Spider-Fan Jedi Master star 4

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    This isn't exactly representative of Canada either, which tends to be pretty liberal.
     
  18. SithLordDarthRichie

    SithLordDarthRichie CR Emeritus: London star 9

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    Any place that stops the advance of th Murdoch empire is cool in my book.

    The news is supposed to give accurate unbiased coverage of national & world events, if it doesn't do that then it should not be allowed to broadcast. The BBC oftens gets criticism if it is seen to support a certain point of view, its charter states is has to be neutral.

     
  19. Katana_Geldar

    Katana_Geldar Jedi Grand Master star 8

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    Good to hear. :D

    Ritchie, I think the ABC charter says the same thing as well down here.

    And I am well aware of the irony where Murdoch actually comes from, you guys can keep him as far as I am concerned.
     
  20. Ramza

    Ramza Administrator Emeritus star 10 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    But we don't want him!:_|
     
  21. KnightWriter

    KnightWriter Administrator Emeritus star 10 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    It's not that Fox News is biased. It is that it claims to be unbiased when it is in fact an arm of the Republican Party.
     
  22. Drac39

    Drac39 Chosen One star 6

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    There's a large difference between news and infotainment. I find it almost isn't worth getting upset about Fox News because it is so incredibly stupid. And for all their nonsense Fox News does have a point that every other news station is liberal. Honest reporting is out there for those who want to find it but I imagine the typical Fox News/MSNBC viewer would call it boring.

    So I guess my point is that if a Fox News type thing wanted to get started in Canada it would have to play around with that thin line between entertainment and news.
     
  23. SithLordDarthRichie

    SithLordDarthRichie CR Emeritus: London star 9

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    All the more reason to keep it out.

    The Canadian PM sounds like a real Tea Party type Right-Wing crazy.
     
  24. Katana_Geldar

    Katana_Geldar Jedi Grand Master star 8

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    More people want him there than here.
     
  25. GrandAdmiralJello

    GrandAdmiralJello Comms Admin ❉ Moderator Communitatis Litterarumque star 10 Staff Member Administrator

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    Harper's not a Tea Party type. The wannabe Bush Jr. thing, from what I can tell, is the most accurate appellation.

    Katana: You would be fulfilling Godwin's Law, not breaking it. That said, really? State-controlled media is as old as the 17th century, if not older.
     
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