From Lucas' mouth: The Dark Side is stronger!

Watch the DVD and turn on the commentary. During Anakin's confession and Shmi's funeral, Lucas says the Dark side is stronger.

 

He also says that Yoda is the end result of Kermit and Ms. Piggy.

So much for that "EU is a seperate universe deal..."

Unless it's in the movie, it's not strict canon, as far as I am concerned.

However, going by what he says here, I'd suggest that he's implying about the dark side being stronger during the PT era, specifically. It's growing stronger, and clouding the Jedi's vision and abilities.

 

:oints at Jedi::

[Nelson] Ha-ha! [/Nelson]

 

I've always thought the darkside was stronger. I mean, it only takes two Sith Lords (well actually 4) to topple the Jedi Order, which is made up of thousands. The two remaining Jedi hide like punks for twenty years waiting for some kind of hope--they were too afraid to duel a cripple in a life support suit, lol.
Maul was an apprentice and he killed a very powerful Jedi Master.
Dooku was an apprentice and he handed it to Obi-wan and Anakin and then he went toe to toe with Yoda and lived to tell the tale about it.
The darkside is indeed stronger and Yoda is talking from some "certain point of view" BS in ESB.

 

Why would GL's statement only refer to the PT???

I agree with Mobart.

 

Why would Yoda tell the truth in that scene, if he were in fact lying? "Oh, yes, Luke; the Dark Side is stronger." That would hardly be the method I would take to send Luke to meet Vader and the Emperor

He would be more apt to accept Palpatine's invitation. The promise of more power can be quite seductive

 

I think Lucas means that the Dark Side is stronger in the PT. Clearly the Dark Side has weakend in the OT the way the Light Side has weakend in the PT.

RB

 

No, he meant that the Darkside is stronger period. Listen to the commentary and you can't make any mistake about it. He said that basically being a jedi is about accepting the fact that life changes. People die so they don't get attached to them. Wealth can go away, so don't become greedy. You will die, so don't try to hold on to your life. The light side is about letting life run it's course.

The Dark Side is different. It's about keeping the ones you love alive. Controlling and amassing wealth and power. Maintaining your existance no matter what it takes. The Dark Side is is about control and keeping it, and true control is the definiton of power, so the Dark Side is more powerful.

This changes everything we thought we knew about the force, but it honestly does make sense. In 2005, there will be no doubt that the Dark Side will show it's true colors.

 

Darn it! . . you have to take the quote into context of the scene he was talking about. This is the whole point that "balance" must be rutunred to the force. The dark side is stronger . . IN THE NEAR TERM . . and it is growing ever stronger . . but is it stronger OVERALL? Clearly not . .

Just look at how it all ends up as an example

 

the Dark side is MORE POWERFUL, but not STRONGER...there is a difference.

 

The misinterpretation of Lucas and Star Wars is one of the most hilarious and entertaining aspects of these threads, .

 

The Light Side in the end is "stronger", but the Dark Side seems "stronger" in the short term..........obviously Light conquers Dark in the end....see ROTJ.

 

"The two remaining Jedi hide like punks for twenty years waiting for some kind of hope--they were too afraid to duel a cripple in a life support suit"

Nevermind the fact that those Sith had thousands upon thousands of stormtroopers protecting them. Two Jedi fighting their way through that to deal with a couple of Sith? There's no hope in that at all.

 

"The misinterpretation of Lucas and Star Wars is one of the most hilarious and entertaining aspects of these threads."

George Lucas (confession audio sequence): "..in order to get that power you have to give in to the stronger side which is the Dark Side.."

What am I mis-interpreting again? Please listen to the audio commentary before posting in this thread.

 

so you're saying he contradicted himself ?surprise, surprise. some habits never die.

 

You could say he's contradicting himself, or you could also say that Yoda was fibbing. Think about it like this, one Skywalker has already turned who was trained from the age of nine. Now, one that is twice as old when he starts his training is inquiring about the same thing.

What do you do? Heck they hid the fact that Vader was his father from him, and that's precedent enough for me.

 

the Dark side is MORE POWERFUL, but not STRONGER...there is a difference.

I agree...the dark side is stronger and offers more power, but it tears the Emperor and Vader apart from the inside, meanwhile the light side jedi get an afterlife sort of thing going. Kind of like heaven and hell to a degree, although I don't mean for this to turn into a whole religious debate.

 

I have always thought that the Dark Side was "physically" stronger, but the light side was "mentally" stronger.

Look at TPM for an example. Obi Wan is physically defeated but Darth Maul is mentally defeated. If the Dark Side was trully stronger, he would have sensed Obi Wan going for the lightsabre and then taken him out.

Then, in ROTJ, Luke defeats Vader with ease when he momentarily (sp?) passes into the dark side.

So in the end even Anakin "gives in" to the light side when he saves Luke by giving Palpatine the shaft.

 

*makes some popcorn, sits back and gets ready for pages of entertainment*

 

Listen to the commentary before posting your thoughts on what he said. He clearly states that the Dark Side is both more powerful and stronger. Yes, it's destructive and evil, and yes being a Light Side-using, Living Force-loving, follower of goodness is the better choice because it is nobler and heoric, but facts is facts.

To be honest, I always tought this was true even when I was a little kid, so it doesn't dissappoint me. Years of playing the RPG and people telling me I was wrong made me shut up, but it was always picking at me whenever I watched ROTJ and now the two prequel films. I'm actually kind of glad to be finally validated by the man himself after so many years.

 

The dark side offers more in brute strength.

As JediSabre 77 said:

The Dark Side in my mind is BRUTE STRENGTH. Its brawn. The Light is more subtle. Less brutish more style. It's brains. The thing is that the lightside can be used in ways that the dark can't. It's really hard to use a sledgehammer as anything but a bludger obviously but if you're smart and quick you can sidestep a sledgehammer and take it away from the baddy. Another problem with the Dark is that it just forces you to focus on anger and hatred and in the end that leaves you hollowed out. Empty. The light you focus on serenity, knowledge peace. The light comes to you and makes you whole. The Darkside gives you brute force. The light gives you inner strength.

 

I was going to offer an analogy of boxing as darkside, and classical martial arts as the Lightside, but I did not want to spawn a boxing vs martial arts debate. You get the idea though.

 

Jar Jar, You're misinterpreting his meaning.
Think about it this way. If the dark side were truly stronger, then why did the light side win in the end? In one sense, yes, the darkside is stronger, but only very temporarily.

 

Jar Jar! You're so silly!

If only you knew the power.....


of common sense!

 

Harabec said: "Nevermind the fact that those Sith had thousands upon thousands of stormtroopers protecting them. Two Jedi fighting their way through that to deal with a couple of Sith? There's no hope in that at all."

I knew someone was going to say something like this and I was thinking about addressing it in my first post, but alas I didn't. Anyway, if that were the case, if Obi-wan and Yoda would have had to fight legions of Stormtroopers just to get to DV and the Emperor, then why didn't DV employ this tactic on the Death Star against Obi-wan?

The Sith's only weakness is that they become too overconfident. Just like the Emperor allows Luke the chance to strike him down in ROTJ, The Emperor and Darth Vader would welcome a duel with Obi-wan and Yoda--they wouldn't have to fight any massive army just to get to them. With Obi-wan it's personal--there's no way DV would let stormtroopers take him out. And with Yoda--seriously, don't you think the Emperor wants to settle the debate over who's more powerful? And DV has been told he would someday become more powerful than Yoda--don't you think DV wants to prove that he is?

Now if things aren't going the Sith's way, they might use some "dirty" tactics, but what's to stop them from using them on Luke? Obi-wan and Yoda didn't seem to mind about that--they were even encouraging Luke to take on DV and the Emperor by himself, without even showing Luke how to block force lightning.