Full Potential Anakin Skywalker or Full Potential Luke Skywalker ??? Dont get mad...

Hello,

I'm almost scared to ask this because I notice some people get really mad... but I just kind of wanted to discuss it in a positive light.

So I know there are alot of views of who's stronger Anakin or Luke... Obviously Luke became alot stronger because Anakin was charbroiled like a Burger King Whopper. BUT, IF Anakin reached his Full Potential as a Jedi/Sith ... is it true he'd be the strongest force user in Star Wars Galaxy? unmatched by anyone in terms of power.

And I know there is a quote saying "luke became what his father could've become", but does that really mean he'd be as strong? or does it mean he became a great and powerful Jedi? BUT not as strong as his father would have become.

Anyways, please dont get mad.. i really dont mean to start anything bad here .. if you dont like this topic please just ignore it ... thanks for your opinions!


No versus/power-level threads.

 

isn't this a vs thread?

 

What I've always heard quoted was that they have the same potential, but if both fully realized it I'd say Anakin would probably be slightly stronger on account of being the Chosen One and not the Chosen One's son. Going by what actually happened IU, I'd say that FOTJ!Luke is now quite a bit more powerful than Vader at his strongest.

 

I think your right.... sorry if there is a moderator who could possibly move this to the right forum?!

 

I'm not sure if Lucas ever stated who had the most raw potential but Luke either way realized it and then some. I think he'd have been the strongest in any situation simply because Luke has had the patience to follow things through. I don't think Anakin, even if he hadn't gone Vader, would have learned as much technique as Luke has. He also never had the wisdom or compassion his son has. The better Jedi any day is Luke. And in the end, the strongest, potential or no, is Luke Skywalker.

 

They're equal to eachother in terms of potential.

but I'd say Luke obviously has the edge in mental discipline. He's sortof Obi-Wan & Anakin in one person: Unimaginably powerful, but with a cool, clear mindset. It's why an entire order of Sith collectively wet themselves at the mere suggestion he might find out about them.

 

DarthBoba and Manisphere hit the nail on the head. Their powers may be equal, but Luke has more control--ultimately making him the better Jedi.

But if you're still unconvinced, some quotes:

But ultimately, isn't this discussion a moot point? Anakin restored balance to the Force not by some crazy display of Force ability, but by physically chucking his master down a reactor shaft. His love for his son overcame his own physical limitations. It's not like Dragonball Z, where whoever has the highest power level wins.

 

Exactly. Take the best of Anakin, add in the best of Obi-Wan, and what you get is Luke.

 

Yp. It's no surprise that Palpatine was absolutely frothing at the mouth to get his hooks into Luke-all of Vader's potential power and none of his weaknesses. He's honestly the one person in the galaxy that could have overshadowed Sidious as a Sith Lord.

 

Am I the only one who thinks that Luke gets his good side from his mother? After all, aside from Luke, Padme was the only one who believed that Anakin was somewhere behind Vader and she had a lot more reason not to think so than Luke ever did.

But a non-maimed Anakin that doesn't turn dark is an interesting converstaion explored in some rather good fan fiction.

 

Not necessarily. Pre-Palpatine Anakin was a good and kindhearted boy with alot of similar traits to Luke.

Plus of course, Anakin actually did what Luke was prepared to do: Die to defeat the Emperor.

 

Personnaly, I beleive that Anakin has higher potential and had he not been cut up by Kenobi would have gone on to become the most powerful Jedi or Sith the galaxy would ever have.

 

I think most discussions about how "powerful" someone is really ought to be seperated into at least two facets... both raw strength and technical skill. To use a real world analogy, in football it doesn't matter how strong or fast you are if you don't have the specific skills (throwing/catching/tackling/blocking) and don't know the plays and how to work with your team.

Likewise, a Jedi/Sith must be evaluated not just by how many midis they have/how "strong" they are, but how well they use that power. And IMO that's the difference between Anakin and Luke. By all accounts they are equally strong... but Luke's personality and life experiences make him far better at using that power than Anakin ever was, and likely more than he ever would have been without being roasted.

 

why isn't this thread locked yet?

 

You're definitely not the only one. It was, IMO, the Padme in Luke that makes him such a gentle soul despite near godlike power. His Padme genes are just as important as the Anakin ones in making all that Luke is and has created.

 

Because there's actually legitimate discussion going on.

 

Hey, great responses ! thanks guys, please keep em comming.

I hear a lot of people talk about Anakin having equal force potential to luke.. and some people saying Anakin has more potential.

Wouldnt Luke's force potential be lower since he midi's were diluted with padme? or does it not work that way in SW Universe?

 

Optimal_Obrey

Wouldnt Luke's force potential be lower since he midi's were diluted with padme? or does it not work that way in SW Universe?

It doesn't seem to work that way. It seems to be more that if you inherit the Force ability, you pretty much inherit it in full. Look at how powerful Jacen became. If the midi's were diluted with every generation, Cade Skywalker wouldn't be very powerful at all. It seems rather like inheriting eye color. Even though one might have a blue-eyed parent and a brown-eyed parent, that doesn't mean the child will have blue/brown eyes or one blue and one brown eye. They will either inherit the blue eyes or the brown eyes.

 

It tends to vary from generation to generation. For example-Jaina and Jacen were never depicted as being as uber-potential as Anakin was, and Kol Skywalker lost in almost the exact same situation as Luke won in in the last FOTJ book-duelling a dozen or so generic Sith at once. Likewise, Ben hasn't done anything particularly extraordinary either. Not to mention that Jacen got totally overwhelmed both times he fought Luke, and that was with the Dark Side in his pocket to boot.

Luke, Anakin Jr. and Cade are the only descendants of Anakin Skywalker that seem to have the full potential of their common relative.

 

cool that sounds interesting...

So what you guys are saying is Anakin, Luke, Anakin JR. and Cade all have the same force potential .. but Luke learned the most and thus became the most powerful sith/jedi ever?

 

More or less, yeah. Anakin Jr. could have reached the same potential, but he died early. Cade could reach that potential too, but so far isn't even remotely close because he's pretty juvenile to say the least.

 

I'd say that because Anakin Skywalker was all Midis, he'd have a slight edge in overall potential. However, Lucas did say that Luke had the same Midi count, so it is arguable that they would have identical potential. But I find it persuasive that Anakin had less non-midi interference, if that is even possible, because of Padme's input. But that is just conjecture - I think having the same midi count would likely make their potential so close as to make any difference negligible. Futhermore, Leia had that same midi count and would have equal potential as well.

As for using that potential, I think Anakin Skywalker would have hands down been able to make the most of his potential. That is based on the idea that he overcame any corruption and went on to excel as a Jedi. The petty attributes that held him back would have passed and I think he had more determination and resolve than anyone else in the canon, including his kids. That is saying a lot because Luke and Leia also had those attributes in spades - just a cut under their dad though, imo. That said, it is possible that both Luke and Leia would eventually develop that same resolve in that degree - in which case they would all be identical in their use of their potential. I assume that is true for all of the Skywalker line children - I am not sure if they will have that flow in the Solo line as well though.

 

Obrey - why do you want to know?

 

Really, who knows what it all means. Luke is force strong because he's always at the forefront of every war and Jedi aren't supposed to fight wars. I also think his full potential is meditation, danger sense, and telepathy, empathy, infinite patience, FAITH, etc. Luke is just a more well rounded person and Jedi, with the right temperament. It's not necessarily more strength, but more E I (emotional intelligence). Of course Luke's whole life was one of solitude and introspection, he was very alone for many years, before and after Tatooine. Thinking about everything he did and weighing it first, thinking before he acts, buts acts very decisively when he does.. When excited early on, he was much more childish and immature than Anakin ever was. Yet, he was his own person. He was genuinely loved and accepted at all stages of his life by many people. His enemies were very clear cut and definable.

Anakin is naturally impatient, and doesn't like to listen because he has such a incredible sixth sense but it's not perfect. Anakin had too much confidence in his abilities. He had been watched like a hawk all his life from a very young age. He was constantly influenced and controlled by others. His love and acceptance was conditional, based on stats and performance reviews. He wasn't truly loved, except by a couple of people. He was always trying to please everyone, yet while breaking rules, under the strain of too much expectation. It's hard to be objective about himself with everyone that utilized him wanted to influence his thoughts and loyalties. A much more torn person was Anakin. His idol/hero was his enslaver, not a clear cut enemy that he could identify. Sometimes his enemy was even himself and his confusion. With his jumpy personality, stubborness and unwillingness to compromise, he didn't really have the right temperament to reach his full potential. Even a handful for Palpatine with half his power taken away, Anakin wais too high powered, and too blinded by the force to really work it. It works him.