General Grievous doesn't seem as powerful in ROTS as he was in the Clone Wars Cartoon

After seeing the Clone Wars cartoon and reading ROTS it seems Lucas made Grievous less powerful in the movie. In the cartoon Grievous was sooo feared by the Jedi. He took out Shaak Ti and the others so easily. You could feel how afraid those jedi were when they were waiting for him to come into that ship.
In the book Greivous always seems like he is running away or hiding behind his guards and the other droids. He faces Obi-Wan with four light sabers and beomes disarmed? Now all of a sudden Obi-Wan is the best Jedi with a light saber? It just seems uneven to me. I thought Grievous would be portrayed a lot differently in the movie/book than he was. I like the way he portryed in the Clone War cartoon better.

 

The Clone Wars cartoon does this. It wasn't just with Grievous. Look at the episode where Mace Windu single-handedly takes out 200 hundred super battle droids, some without even his lightsaber. He also destroys that huge Trade Federation battering machine without any help. The cartoon creators enjoy exagerrating things as much as possible while keeping it plausible.

 

After seeing the Clone Wars cartoon and reading ROTS it seems Lucas made Grievous less powerful in the movie. In the cartoon Grievous was sooo feared by the Jedi.

You have it backwards. The cartoon over-exaggerated his power and led you to expect too much from Grievous.

 

Well, you have to understand that the characters and their powers in the Clone Wars cartoons are vastly exaggurated. Mace force pushed dozens of Droids at a single time and single handedly took out an entire tank.

Its certainly amazing stuff, but the characters are far too powerful in the CW cartoons, Grievous included. I prefer him not to be some all powerful unstoppable killing machine.

Edit: Beaten to the punch...twice

 

The cartoon did go too far in the interpretation of GG. But, its a cartoon.

GG in the movie wil be feared, but its implied.

Boba Fett was suppoed to be this badass bounty hunter....the majority of it was implied. All he did was track Han et al to Bespin, and then wound up being dinner for the Sarlaac.

 

The cartoon exaggerated EVERYBODY - Mace, Obi, Ani, Shaak Ti, even Padme! And do you rememer how Yoda took out a few Separatist capital ships just by using the Force??? Makes you wonder why they don't just send Yoda up during the space battle and destroy the entire Separatist fleet with just a few waves of his hands.

 

In the Clone Wars, EVERONE is more powerful. Mace and Yoda single-handledly take out droid armies, and Obi-Wan and Yoda are each armies-of-one (literally). All the Jedi, even Shaak Ti, can jump like something out of Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon, and Shaak Ti manages to take on dozens of those silly MagmaGaurds for some time. The Clone Wars generally portrays the Jedi as they always should have been. The PT shows the Jedi as glorified swordsmen (but I could be proven wrong by ROTS).

To take on Jedi as powerful as that, General Grevious also had to be much strong than he is shown in the movie.

That's the way I see it, anyway.

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LOL SSD.

Very true. They took the Jedi powers and ran with them, which is fine, its a cartoon...its supposed to do that.

 

The cartoons started badly and tapered off with a vengeance.

It other words, they were embarrassingly poor.

 

If you look at the end of the cartoon, Grievous is dealt quite a force punch by Mace. This seems to disable him to an extent and cause his coughing and wheezing. Also, it is probably implied in both the book and the movie that he has a history.

Heck, Darth Maul was supposed to be a bad a$$ yet all we saw was him killing one Jedi then getting his saber cut in half before he himself was cut in half!

 

I think it would have been a better idea to actually show why Grievous is so feared. There isn't any reason to be concerned about Obi-Wan's mission to get him, IMO. I mean, we would know he's going down, anyway, but it really lowers the tension.

 

Implied!

Boba Fett, Jango Fett, Darth Maul. GG will join their ranks.

 

You should check out the LOE novel. GG is made very well there. Too bad in ROTS he looks like he's going to kick the bucket like a punk. Typical of the PT anyway, but the eu does over exaggerate. Who can forget the super force storm of the re-born emperor in Dark Empire?

 

grievous's destruction from a blaster is not something i was pleased to read about from the book...but...he did put up a good fight. however...i will have to agree with most of youa dn say that he really didn't live up to his rep from CW...he was far more cool on the show then he will be in the movie...i mean...he almost killed ki-adi-mundi...that guy was a pretty big jouster in ATOC in the arena scene. grievous should have lived up to his name instead of running like a little girl...(sigh)...adn yet, i still think he is one of the coolest villains ever...

 

It's a double-edged sword. The cartoon caused a VAST portion of Grievous haters to suddenly fall in love with the character. I'd go as far to say that if it wasn't for the cartoon we would 'still' be having the same "OMG lIGhtsABeR wEElDER DRoID?!? Lu$AS = dUmbs!!11!!" topics we were getting all last year when the character was first announced.

However, the cartoon also had him doing things that he was never planned on doing in the film, so fans of the cartoon and the character are going to go in and expect him to do things he was never envisioned on doing, like the whole "fighting with his feet thing" which was only done because the cartoon's creator wasn't told on how Grievous was going to carry four sabers at once. It wasn't until after the cartoon was completed and aired when he found out that, in the movie, Grievous splits his arms into two.

Oops.

Clone Wars Season 2 fixes this, but still has him using his feet like a monkey for some reason (I have to admit it looks cool when he does it though).
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Strider4700- The cartoon wasn't the only one there on that. In the LOE novel, he has a mini-repulsor that allows him to raise off the ground several inches and gives him the mobility in which to fight jedi. The problem with that, is that 1)Luceno wrote the visual dictionary and it does not mention anything with repulsors, 2)chances are we are not going to see that in film, 3)GG was portrayed as an able commander as an alien first, then a hybrid droid/flesh one. Only to read the ROTS novel, and have count cooku have complete disgust for the thing. That one alone really bothered me. Sometimes I wonder, why create all these good characters and then write them off as bumbling idiots.Thats one of the reasons the cartoon GG comes off a lot better.

 

"There's no way, no WAY that any of this matters.

Soon as I get home, the first thing I'm gonna do is punch your EU in the mouth."

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I would also point out that Lucas seems to have a theme whereby evil characters die like "punks".

Good invariably triumphs over evil (except maybe in ROTS).

Therefore, if you asked Lucas "who is going to get a cooler death? Mace or Grievous?", the answer is obvious.

 

I finally watched the episode with GG yesterday with my 2 boys eight and four yrs old. We discussed it some and hoped he wouldn't do that in the movie.

Buford, nice quote!

 

Well, thank you, Mr. Bandit. And as the initial poster, may I say you're the got-damnedest postee I've ever followed. Now that this EU bull$#!+ is over, WHERE ARE YOU, YOU SOMBITCH?

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I've never really got too concerned about GG cos i've always thought that he most likely isnt going to have that much screen time and will only be a quite minor character in the film.

There's too many other things of importance going on in the film for him to realistically have much time on screen. So i'm not getting overly psyched.

The main reason for him even ebing in the films is because i think they wanted a good plot device to split Anakin and Obi-Wan up so that the Chancellor could get Anakin to himself for a while.
So they decided to have Obi-Wan go after some villian and then decided that instead of just making him some average joe villian they thought they'd go all out and make him cool!

I'm just gonna sit back and enjoy one of the things that makes star wars great and puts it above many other movies and thats the fact that even the fringe characters are sometimes so much cooler than many other stories main characters!!

 

also remember that mace crushes some vital stuff on greivous before he espapes, and this IS implemented in the movie, for i have seen a clip of him and hes coughing in it.

 

Its a good thing that GG isn't as powerful in Episode III has he was in TCWC. It would have stolen the thunder away from everyone else.


Plus if GL made GG as power in ROTS as he did in TCWC It would look ludercious.

 

How does anyone know how Grievous is portrayed in the movie unless theyve SEEN the movie?

A Screenplay and Novel are literary devices, whereas a movie is a visual device. In other words when you SEE grievous jumping around and kicking ass you might change your mind.

However, though I love the Darth Maul character I always thought he could have done more in TPM. I always thought he could have been used even better. So maybe Greivous WILL suck.

 

They could have done more with Darth Maul during the entire trilogy. He should have stayed alive and been developed as a real character.