Full Series Geonosian genocide!!

In the clone wars the jedies a kill the geonosian queen without much remorse or hesitation. Am I the only one who find this to be a little of putting given that the queen is probably responsible for all the geonosians being born. If the geonosians are like ants and other insects with who form colonies then there is only one mother and that means no more geonosians could have been born after that or at least not within that colony.

 

This is more a topic for Star Wars TV.

 

Well, we don't know for sure if Karina was the only Queen, there may have been others. Or she could have had a successor who took her place after Karina died in the Geonosis arc.
Also, the Geonosians helped to build the Death Star (or were rather forced to do that) after the Clone Wars. In the fourth issue of Marvel's Darth Vader comic series, Vader and Aphra visit Geonosis shortly after the Battle of Yavin. It is mentioned that the Empire had sterilized the planet, only one queen had survived. So I think that the Empire has done the genocide after the Death Star was finished and the Empire didn't "need" the Geonosians anymore.

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I really do not know if Karina was killed, its more a presumed death thing. Geonosians are highly intelligent and probably know all the weaknesses of the Death Star, since it was basically they're design. The Queens would be a threat to Sidious since he basically screwed them over back in the TCW and probably stoled all their technology and scientists.

 

Viewed through the lens of the Geonosians, the GAR's actions throughout the Clone War demonstrated the Republic to be an unwelcome invading (and for some time, even an occupying) force. So you can understand why some of the Geonosian's felt and behaved as they did. And in the specific case in question -- though trying to force an unwilling General Unduli to submit to having her mind taken over by a living piece of fish bait has got to be a violation of the Yavin Code, yes -- Master Luminara (herself a high-value target) was an armed opponent who was captured during the course of a mission to hunt down one of the System's ranking political figureheads, during a time of open conflict. Because of this, HRH Karina had every right to order Luminara captured and (at least) held prisoner.

At the same time, Obi-Wan, Anakin and their respective troopers were attempting the rescue a fellow sister-in-arms, while an army of undead beings were doing their best to kill them all. And in the end, they (the ones who did manage to survive) were lucky to have escaped with their lives. So if Kenobi, Skywalker, etc. -- and especially Unduli -- weren't wearing dour expressions and spouting platitudes about how bad they felt that the Queen didn't survive, I think that's probably pretty understandable, too.

That, and more generally speaking, the Geonosian population was engaged in an armed struggle against the Republic; they were a major supplier of droid forces used in combat against the forces of the GAR; oh, and as someone else already mentioned, their world's best minds were, you know, doing their best to develop the "Ultimate Weapon."


My point being that they were certainly legitimate military targets. And in war, the most terrible things imaginable are just par for the course. It's why sane people do everything in their power to avoid going to war in the first place.

In the end, the events of "Legacy of Terror" were pretty much "fair play" on both sides to me.

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Now, to anyone who maybe is inclined to feeling sympathetic towards the Geonosians, I think the far, far worse crime against the population was actually committed by the Empire.

[see: The "Sterilization of Geonosis." An Imperial atrocity first introduced in the current Darth Vader comic line]
http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Sterilization_of_Geonosis

 

I totally agree and its sorta sad to think about it really that in 65 years from whenever the sterilization happened that they will be dead as a species if they are not already.

 

Vader takes place a long while after CW, looks like they were so severly crushed it will take a generation or more for them to start some resemblance of rebuilding, maybe through Karina if she's alive. But this species was one that I ever felt anything for, they were always portrayed malevolent and as a antagonist. Too bad the PS4 bundle does not include an updated Republic Commando.

 

If they are like real life hive insects, I think any drone can become a queen if the present queen dies.

 

That's not how hive insects work as far as I can tell. Adult insects are mostly "irrevocably fixed" (with a few exceptions)- a grown worker bee is always sterile.

However - unlike with some other hive insects (termites - which have a "supplementary reproductive" caste, any of which can be turned into a queen), a bee larva is not "born into its caste" - any larval female bee can be turned into a Queen through being fed royal jelly.

The "a worker becomes a queen when the previous queen dies" principle does work for at least one "hive animal" - but it's not an insect - it's a mammal - a rodent - the naked mole rat.

 

Even if Karina is the Queen and not merely the head of an individual hive, there's no indication that she is an immortal being. Ergo, there must have been queens before her, and therefore there can be queens after her. Probably through some Geonosian analogy to how ants replace a dead queen.

 

Darth Vader #4 REALLY should have told us whether that Genosion Queen was Karina or not......

Still at least she survived so there's always a chance the genosions could come back for ep 7

 

I was surprised vader did not kill her.

 

If killing the queen really was going to genocide the entire species, and if procuring said genocide was actually the Republic's goal, then they were wasting their time even putting troops on the ground. With a willingness to commit genocide on the geonosians in play, the easiest way would simply have been to slag the planet from orbit. Base Delta Zero.

 

It is possible they knew very little about Geonosians, they(Jedi) didnt seem to know a whole lot on their own about Kamino either, Geo was an Outer Rim planet even. I would guess they did not know a whole lot also in terms of their biology and culture and what not. Seems like 5 years after ROTS the Empire had been wiping them out and stripping all the resources they could from the planet and its moons. This seems standard practice for the Empire to do to former Separatist worlds or other non affiliated worlds newly acquired.

 

I think the Geonosians are the ants of Star Wars :/

 

I thought Geonosis was awesome in AOTC. TCW and Dave Filoni ruined it for me.

 

I don't think they weren't really thinking that deeply into it when they did it. But I'm pretty sure anyone can become queen like Darth Valkyrus suggests.