Geonosians exhaust vents, interesting ANH connection

I was watching AOTE last night and it occured to me:

Anakin and Padme are able to infiltrate the Geonosian factory how?

-Through an exhast vent.

The Geonosians invented the deathstar.

And what was the deathstar's weak point? What small flaw was its ultimate undoing?

An exhast vent.

 

interesting, i'd never thought of that

 

It could be intential because both the scene in the gas vent leading to the factory and the death star cameo were both late additions to AOTC at around the same time in Post production so Lucas may have done that as a little nod once he realized he would include the deathstar.

 

I was watching AOTE last night

You were watching Attack_Of_The_Ewoks last night? Make sure to (never mind, don't want to get banned) next time.

 

Oh, sorry did that out of habit, I call it Attack of the Edit because I made my own cut of the movie and I tend to watch that version more, I wrote AOTE without even thinking that it was wrong.

 

Hmmmmm... You MAY be reading a bit too much into it, but it's an interesting observation nontheless.

 

Its probably a coincidence, or a subconsious connection on Lucas' part, but it is interesting I agree, those termites never seem to notice their exhast vents are points of vulnerability.

 

Nice observation but I noticed that long before you. [edited]

YJ edit: That wasn't necessary, nor was it on topic.

 

O sorry, didn't know it had been brought up before.

And actually no I'm unemployed right now so I don't have anything better to do. I usually pop a movie on while I'm cleaning the house in the morning. I like the factory scene, it feels the most starwars of the whole movie, and I like action scenes on conveyer belts.

Its all cause of temple of doom I think.

Anyways while I think AOTC flounder in a lot of places I still find it amusing and watch it from time to time.

 

I too think it's just a coincidence. Although, did Anakin and Padme gain enterance through the exhaust vent, or did it simple mask their approach?

 

It's quite possible. This is the way Lucas' mind works, and things like this rarely work their way into the films by accident.

 

Thats what I mean, and both the factory entrance and the deathstar plans were added in around the same time. Originally they just landed in the middle of geonosis city (what would that have looked like I wonder) and then got ambushed by 3 dozen geonosians and dooku walked out and then it cut to the scene with them in the meeting room.

 

Sounds boring.

 

Maybe on purpose could be coincidence

But good thought none the less

 

I agree,t he factory works much better, though I wish the trial scene remained in the movie.

The scene that I really wish was in the movie, that would of cause a nive parallel with ESB but also served the plot in a big way is to show dooku and Jango together after dooku talks to obi-wan.

Remeber in ESB when Vader was torturing Han and then walked out to see Boba who said "He's no good to me dead"

Well imagine if after dooku tried (unsuccessfuly) to tempt Obi-wan he had exited the chamber and Jango was standing out there, same sort of shot as ESB, but with Jango and dooku now, and jango just said "told you so" and dooku just kind of sneered at him.

This aside from being cool would serve three purposes:

1)We would know Jango was working for dooku, which is fairly muddled in the film and doesn't come across as well as it should

2)It would allow the villans to have a moment to themselves which happens very rarely in aotc

3)It would add further intrigue to dooku's character, we know he lied to obi-wan about knowing Jango, but we also know (having seen TPM) that he is telling the truth about sidious. Which leads to the question, what is dooku really up to?

 

Well imagine if after dooku tried (unsuccessfuly) to tempt Obi-wan he had exited the chamber and Jango was standing out there, same sort of shot as ESB, but with Jango and dooku now, and jango just said "told you so" and dooku just kind of sneered at him.

Well first, I don't think he would've sneered. He's too charismatic for that

Second, that would've been a nice little scene. But I also liked it where it ended. Your idea (while nice) might've seemed tacked on (but of course, you just tacked it on, so maybe that's why! I = smrt!)

Third, as long as you don't accuse of Lucas of having missed an opportunity or anything, I'm fine. I mean, tons of people have good ideas for little bits and peices, and you simply can't expect Lucas to think of them all right?

And finally, that was a nice little connection you thought of
What's the Geonosian's fascination with exhaust vents? Creepy little buggers...

 

Wow...somebody who didn't like AOTC all together actually liked the droid factory sequence? This is quite refreshing!

Nice observation. I guess you're right, those Geonosians never learn from their mistakes. Either that or they feel they really need exhaust vents for some reason. Why don't they ever guard them with a forcefield or shutters or something?

And remember, Lucas cut out Jango from the Separatist meeting because he wanted to keep Dooku mysterious. Though that would have been a nice nod to the OT, I think it would have been unnecessary. Of course, there are quite a few of unnecessary scenes in AOTC, so who am I kidding?

Cometgreen

 

"And remember, Lucas cut out Jango from the Separatist meeting because he wanted to keep Dooku mysterious."

Unforutnately I think there is a fine line between mysterious and vague, and I think Dooku's character definitly wades into the vague side of the pool. While jango was deleted to hide the connection between him and dooku, in the very same scene dooku admits that he is the one behind the assassination attempts, so taking out Jango really failed to do what it was suppose to do. And we never really get a great moment of revelation where we see that the two are working together. Likewise Dooku never gets to make a great entrance in the movie, infact its possible to not even know who he is at first (since his name is never said in that scene) Maul, Palpatine, and Vader all got great entrances.

As for liking the factory scene, I think its lots of fun. I can see why a lot of people don't like it, but it has more to do with the rest of the film being so uneven that make this scene feel bad. Though I would lose cgi c3p0 and a couple other bits. But in general I think that scene is one of the few that makes AOTC a SW film in more then jut title.

 

I think that seeing Jango standing next to Dooku in the Arena should be enough for people to connect the dots and figure out that they're working with each other. That, along with "I was hired by a man named Tyrannus" and "Welcome home, Lord Tyrannus", should make it clear that Jango was hired by Dooku. I don't think anyone left the theater doubting that Dooku was

"3)It would add further intrigue to dooku's character, we know he lied to obi-wan about knowing Jango..."

Again, seeing Dooku and Jango together in the Arena should be able to confirm that yes, Dooku lied to Obi-Wan about knowing Jango.

 

Yes but the revelation is a bit late at that point, as the assassination plot is no longer important to the plot and even Jango has stopped really being relevant.

 

I think the assassination plot stops being important the moment that Obi-Wan sees the Federation ships, Dooku, and the droid factory.

 

I would say there was a connection, but really...

When the Deathstar vent flaw was utilized they blew it up and halted the Empire's greatest weapon.

When the Factory vent flaw was infiltrated they really did nothing more than damage some equipment and get caught by Jango and the droidekas.

If something big had come of it in Anakin and Padmé's favor, I'd agree.

 

Well its still how they were able to sneak in.

"I think the assassination plot stops being important the moment that Obi-Wan sees the Federation ships, Dooku, and the droid factory."

Thats my point.

 

Either that or they feel they really need exhaust vents for some reason. Why don't they ever guard them with a forcefield or shutters or something?

That reminds me of the M.A.D. Magazine parody. The panel showed a bunch of X-Wings buzzing about and a giant flyswatter attached to the Death Star trying swat them, and the line was something like, "We spent $3 billion building this thing and somebody forget the screendoors!"

 

Wasn't it an Exhaust Port in ANH rather than an Exhaust Vent?

Port is an 'in'...

and a vent is an 'out'...


Coincidental.

Although I agree with a lot of the later comments and thoughts here re. Dooku and Fett. Dooku exiting the Obi Wan scene to a "told you so..." comment from Jango would of been very cool indeed. In addition to the purposes it would serve that have already been said it would also suggest Jangos POV was: "Look Dooku, I've had a scrap with this guy and I'm telling you, he ain't gonna turn!"