GEORGE LUCAS AND THE EXPANDED UNIVERSE

Greetings! This is my first post to this board. I am wondering why George Lucas will not accept all of the SW novels and comic books that have been written as being official. It takes a lot to write a story, and I admit some of these stories are better than others, and killing Chewbacca off was a bit extreme. However, you would think Mr. Lucas would be flattered that people who enjoyed his films so much that they took time and money to expand them.

I have read the plot scripts for SW Episodes 7-9 on supershadow.com, and (if they are the real deal) they do not follow anything that was written post-ROTJ, which I think is wrong. I am not saying that the ideas for the sequel trilogy suck, but why could Mr. Lucas not somehow attempt to connect them to the Expanded Universe for the sake of some fans like myself and others who actually enjoy Expanded Universe stories?

 

George Lucas said all EU IS canon, as long as nothing contradicts with the movies.

And Supershaodw is a fake. He does NOT know GL. GL never wrote Episodes 7-9. The only things SS gets right is stuff he plaguirizes from good sites, including us here, he copied RebelScum and GrilledSarlacc word for word before.

 

I have read the plot scripts for SW Episodes 7-9 on supershadow.com, and (if they are the real deal) . . .

They aren't.

Welcome to the boards, by the way. Leave now if you intend to leave at all, and please take me with you.

 

It's more that Lucas is indifferent to the EU, though he does acknowledge it. Personally as it is his universe, I think he can do whatever he wants.

 

Lucas is largely indifferent to the EU. He doesn't care whether or not his movies contradict EU material, and rightfully so.

 

He does influence it sometimes, because it was Luke Skywalker that was originally to be killed in the first book, which became Chewbacca at Lucas's request.

 

I would never have gussed that was your first post on the boards!

 

EVERYTHING on Supershadow.com is either false or plagerized from somewhere else.

So therefore, anything you read on Supershadow.com that you cannot find anywhere else is false.

 

I'm only saying this, because I've never seen it said, and don't really care one wink or another---but perhaps he's only saying that. After all, EU is a money maker, is it not? Besides, does he have to show public interest in EU, let alone the NJO?

Would you, after reading Balance Point, Rebirth, Dark Journey, Shatterpoint and Dark Rendezvous?

 

George Lucas said all EU IS canon, as long as nothing contradicts with the movies.

No, I don't believe that ever happened.

There is an indirect statement that reveals what Lucas probably thinks of the EU's role in continuity: on a question on the OS about Boba's death, the response was that even though Lucas authorized Boba's return in Dark Empire, he still considers him to have died after falling in in ROTJ.

I.e., he lets the EU do things, but they have little to no bearing on his view of continuity. No plot points, planets (Kashyyyk and Coruscant are Lucas-created), or major characters from the EU have ever been used: the most EU involvement in the movies are some dropped names, background characters, a couple designs, and the name of Coruscant.

Then there's the stuff in AOTC, which, even though it's been retconned, still shows that Lucas ignores the EU backstories of things like the Death Star or Boba, making the EU instead accomodate to the movies.

As to why he doesn't use the EU more in his movies: they're his movies. What he puts in his story should not have to be affected by what other people wrote.

And because it can't be said too many times, Supershadow is full of crap.

 

One of the things I've *always* enjoyed about the SW EU is the fact that, unless it's contradicted on the silver screen, it's generally considered to be canon. It's a big factor in why I buy the novels and whatnot because, to me, it means I'm learning a little bit more about the universe created by George Lucas each and every time I read one of the novels (and the odds of it being contradicted are relatively low).

I also buy Star Trek books on occasion as well ? save your boos and hisses, for I happen to like *both* universes ? but do so knowing that they're automatically *not* canon. It's a big reason why I'm really selective when it comes to ST purchases and more liberal, so to speak, with my SW purchases.

LifeFORCE

 

I had this really cool reply, but my cat just pounced on the keyboard and all was lost.

 

Do not believe anything you read on supershadow. Welcome to the world of outraged fans.

 

It's more that Lucas is indifferent to the EU, though he does acknowledge it.

And even if he doesn't, his checkbook certainly must.

Vive le intellectual property!

 

Tund is another EU reference in the movies. Have to remember that for future reference, though for some reason it always slips my mind.

 

Tund is from the Lando Calrissian trilogy. A sorceror from Tund i believe was mentioned.

 

Yup. Rokur Gepta's from Tund, and then almost 20 years later, it shows up in TPM.

 

>>No... planets... from the EU have ever been used<<

Though not visited, Bogden and Toong are among a few planets mentioned in the movie.

Right, that was what I meant by name-dropping. A few names have slipped in as little bonuses, but nothing more major than that. I'm not saying Lucas ignores the EU entirely, just that it really looks like in his mind, it's a separate thing from the movies.

 

Oh, and, I meant Tund, not Toong :

 

New Cov was one of the Podracer-homeworlds mentioned in the first/second TPM screenplay drafts, interestingly enough.

Avoid Supershadow.com like unto the veriest of plagues...it can damage your occipital lobe, and causes breast cancer in passing chihuahuas.

 

Kashyyyk and Coruscant are Lucas-created

Actually, Kashyyyk and Coruscant are EU adaptations of old ideas from RotJ pre-production. Zahn created the name "Coruscant"(plus altered the planet itself a bit, IIRC) and Lucas used it basically because McCallum implored him to do so. I'm glad, because "Coruscant" sounds a lot better than "Had Abbadon."

 

Yeah, Coruscant is a great name, if for no other reason than it plays off its status both in the galatic core physically and generally being the "core" world of civilization.

 

Only a mnemonic image one recieves from hearing it...the true derivation used by Zahn was "coruscate":

cor·us·cate
Pronunciation Key (kôr-skt, kr-)
intr.v. cor·us·cat·ed, cor·us·cat·ing, cor·us·cates

1. To give forth flashes of light; sparkle and glitter: diamonds coruscating in the candlelight.
2. To exhibit sparkling virtuosity: a flutist whose music coruscated throughout the concert hall.