Gethzerion - Just how powerful is she?

Let's look at her nefarious accomplishments in COPL. For one, she creates force storms (the only other such practitioner to my knowledge is Palpatine). Threepio remarks at her tremendous power capacities, and various members of the Singing Mountain Clan agree that she possesses incredible abilities. Furthermore, she kills dozens of stormtroopers in seconds with a wave of her finger. She is able to enter people's minds from afar, as seen with Han. As a further testament to her powers, she shrugs off a blaster bolt and proceeds to destroy the almighty Luke Skywalker with another mere gesture. Her powers are noted by a reference to Palpatine, and the novel explains that he knew and feared her, choosing to exile her on Dathomir lest she destroy him. Certainly some of her power can be explained by an enthusiastic Dave Wolverton, but just how powerful is she? Gethzerion didn't have a weapon, and considering her victory over a still-inexperienced Luke, how would she have fared against the heavy hitters like Palpatine? She does catch Luke off guard, but he seems thoroughly helpless against her dark powers. But would someone like Vader have laughed and disposed of her with a few slashes of his lightsaber?

 

I'd say she's damn near unparalleled in Force-strength, but in armed combat she'd go down easily cause she's frail and all that. I assume it'd be a case of whether you can make the killing blow before she roasts you with her Force powers.

 

I'd say she's damn near unparalleled in Force-strength, but in armed combat she'd go down easily cause she's frail and all that.

So you would put her up there in the leagues of Yoda and Palpatine?

 

I'd say that she was just short of Yoda/Palpatine/Luke level, but up on the Windu/Obi-Wan/Vader/Kyp/Anakin/Jacen level.

 

Wow... you think that Luke is a level above Mace Windu and Anakin / Vader???

You put Luke in the same league as Yoda and Palpatine?

Hmmm... this is worthy of a topic in itself!

 

Wow... you think that Luke is a level above Mace Windu and Anakin / Vader???

You put Luke in the same league as Yoda and Palpatine?
Yes... I'd put Luke as he is in TUF well above Yoda and Palpatine.

 

ABOVE Yoda and Palpatine?! Wow!

So are you saying that Luke Skywalker is the greatest Jedi in the entire 25,000 year history of the order???

That is a BIG statement!

 

So are you saying that Luke Skywalker is the greatest Jedi in the entire 25,000 year history of the order???


In every way. Raw power, skill, and heart most of all. Luke has got the whole package.

 

Seconded!

 

Does anybody know Gethzerion's RPG stats?

 

I agree that Luke is probably the most powerful Jedi ever, but this is the Luke of TUF. Specifically and exclusively. Palpatine is probably more powerful than Yoda, and Luke does quite well against Palpy's clone. I'm pretty sure Luke TUF would defeat Palpatine with the added power and wisdom gained over those years. But I can't shake the fact of how horribly Luke does against Gethzerion. Hes totally dismantled. Its not even close. And this is the same guy who defeated the chosen one years ago. Though Vader wasn't trying . . . But thats another issue. Gethzerion does all right in armed combat against Luke. And a hundred stormtroopers too... Would her 'rupturing yer brain trick' work against someone like Yoda?

 

I assume it can be blocked, but only if you're ready for it.

>>"Does anybody know Gethzerion's RPG stats?"<<

Force Adept 7/Dark Force Witch 10, Init +2, Defense 24, VP/WP 122/15, Atk +13/+8/+3 melee (1d6+1, quarterstaff), SQ Force weapon +1d4, comprehend speech, inspire fear -3, spider walk, Force flight, enshroud, Saves Fort +12, Ref +11, Will +16, FP10, DSP21, Reputation 10, STR 12 DEX 14 CON 15 INT 16 WIS 14 CHA 16.
Plus a bunch of Force skills and feats.


All in all a challenge code G NPC.

And she wrote her own book about the Dark Side, The Book of Shadows. She's a very very powerful darksider.

 

"And she wrote her own book about the Dark Side, The Book of Shadows."

-- New York Inquirer hails "The Book of Shadows," a best-selling cook book written by acclaimed author and entrepreneur Gethzerion, the elderly dame who is famous for bravely defending her estate on Dathomir from the son of the evil Darth Vader --

 

The original getherzion war far weaker than Luke because Danthomir Force skills were independent from normal force skills

She just caught him by surprise, she's more powerful than Luke at this time though because Luke was only 9-12th level range at the time.

More likely 9th because he was only 7th level (i.e. a Jedi Knight) at Endor

 

"The original getherzion war far weaker than Luke because Danthomir Force skills were independent from normal force skills."

Where does it say that? It was to my understanding that Dathomir's abundance of life merely enhanced one's force powers.

 

>>"-- New York Inquirer hails "The Book of Shadows," a best-selling cook book written by acclaimed author and entrepreneur Gethzerion, the elderly dame who is famous for bravely defending her estate on Dathomir from the son of the evil Darth Vader --"<<



EDIT:

A little reasearch on the matter brings this up:

The ultimate guide to the hit program Charmed, this is both a book of spells and a key to the mysteries of the show. The Book of Shadows celebrates the best of Charmed, from its roots in the ancient tradition of Wicca to insider information on the show's stars. N.E. Genge not only provides fascinating background details for the show's Wiccan elements, but also guides readers in performing their own magic. Fans with a witchy bent will learn about the tools of magic and divination and the casting of spells. Recipes and rituals -- from those that beckon love or bless a new business venture to those that bequeath strength or bestow fortune -- are all included. The Book of Shadows is a sassy celebration of witches, sisterhood, and magic.

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0609806521/qid=1093686120/sr=8-1/ref=pd_ka_1/104-0324436-8016766?v=glance&s=books&n=507846

So, just how do they get Earth programs on Dathomir anyway? And who is the enigmatic N.E. Genge?

 

I think gethzerion was feared only because of her nature---she was wild.

Vader and other non-Echani had a code, be it polite or ruthless, but you knew what they were like. A chick like Betty Gethzerion was wild, uncontrollable and pure malicious. And she was chief of her dark clan, a group you don't want let loose. The Betty prefix is pure speculation on my part, which, for all I know, Janey could have suited her better.

 

The Betty prefix is pure speculation on my part, which, for all I know, Janey could have suited her better.

Veronica. Her first name is Veronica.

 

Luke is just too damn afraid to use his power. But yeah, I think Gethzerion was as powerful as Luke. If Palps is afraid of her she must be dangerous, but then again why didn't he use the Eye to blow Dathomir into oblivion???

 

"If Palps is afraid of her she must be dangerous, but then again why didn't he use the Eye to blow Dathomir into oblivion???"

He must have been in a good mood. Palpatine, the philanthropist.