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had luke never heard of anakin?

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  1. DarthWolvo23

    DarthWolvo23 Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    do u think it is plausible, now we know about anakins heroic past-his exploits in the clone wars & especially becoming the first human to ever win a podrace on tatooine- that luke had never heard stories or even rumours about anakin skywalker and realised this person had the same surname as him???

    surely uncle owen couldnt have censored his life to the extent he knew nothing of this famous figure from the recent past?
     
  2. Ogmios22188

    Ogmios22188 Jedi Master star 4

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    Well, Luke lived in an isolated part of Tatooine, out in the middle of the desert, with the closest city being Anchorhead, I believe. Mos Eisley was the next closest, which, if we're to believe Attack of the Clones, is pretty far from Mos Espa, which is where Anakin was from. With that known, it seems unlikely that Luke would ever know anyone who knew Anakin as a slaveboy, podracer, Jedi, and/or starship pilot. Whatever Owen told Luke was basically the truth, so he just believed that Anakin Skywalker was a navigator on a spice freighter and that he just died somehow, along with a mother he never knew.
     
  3. ClonedEmperor

    ClonedEmperor Jedi Padawan star 4

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    Its possible that Kidster might have mentioned him (he was still on Tatooine) in the book Tatooine Ghost. But i doubt Uncle Owen wouldve let anyone keep talking after they said "Oh yeah i remember your dad. this old jedi dude showed up and took him off to Coruscant
     
  4. clone3131

    clone3131 Jedi Master star 4

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    Tough call. Anakin was a big time hero, and we do know Luke knew about the EMPIRE, Rebellion, and the Clone Wars- so he must of known of "Anakin Skywalker".


    Two Things though:

    1) I know Skywalker, like Antilles, is a common name. So thats a possibility.


    2) Something i just thought of- In ANH did Luke every say "Anakin?" Or did anyone around him say "Anakin was your dad's name"?
    Otherwise, Owen and Beru might of told luke his dad's name was Joe Skywalker or whatever and he was a sprice frieghter during the Clone wars. And he never knew about "Anakin" being his dad.
    That way, it would help explain a lot. Why people didnt link him to Anakin, why Luke is still called a skywalker, etc, etc.

    I know Luke mostly says "my father" and so does OB1.


    I could be wrong though, but that would be cool to add somehow if Luke just didnt know "Anakin" was his father until ESB/ROTJ.

    CLone
     
  5. droideka27

    droideka27 Manager Emeritus star 7 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    Well he didn't know his father was a jedi until then, right?
     
  6. clone3131

    clone3131 Jedi Master star 4

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    So then i guess we would have to assume that Luke didnt know his fathers name.




    Right?


    Clone
     
  7. Darthgenius77

    Darthgenius77 Jedi Youngling star 1

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    Anakin is not mentioned by name during ANH. It is well within the realm of possiblities that Luke knew Anakins name, but since no one was really sure what had happened to him (with the exception of OB1 and Owen), no one probably mentioned him to Luke. Luke doesn't find out that Anakin was Jedi untill ANH.
     
  8. CBright7831

    CBright7831 Jedi Padawan star 4

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    Red Leader: I met your father once when I was just a boy, he was a great pilot. You'll do all right. If you've got half of your father's skill, you'll do better than all right.

    Of course this scene was cut.
     
  9. DarthFlatulence

    DarthFlatulence Jedi Youngling star 1

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    I think gruff old Uncle Owen would have opend some WA on anyone who even thought about telling Luke about his father. Notice the very, very short conversation in ANH that Owen put a threatening end to about Luke's father? Also, it would have been easy to lie to Luke. Sure, Luke could have found out the name, Anakin, and he could have also known that Anakin had won the Boonta race. But the only people who knew the Jedi and Anakin as a Jedi would be Owen and Beru. Noone else on Tatooine even knew that the Jedi had been there to take Anakin. Well, maybe Watto, but he was more than likely dead. Knowing that he was a good pilot, Luke would have swallowed the story about his father being a spice freighter navigator. Plus, the galaxy knew of the heroic exploits of Anakin Skywalker, but for all they knew, Anakin died in the Jedi purge.

    What I want to know though is what happened to the tombstones in the family plot on the Lars farm?
     
  10. ClonedEmperor

    ClonedEmperor Jedi Padawan star 4

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    Thats also covered in Tatooine Ghost (at least Shmis) Owen moved them, as he felt no one needed to know where she was buried (possible guilt because he did nothing to rescue her, unlike Anakin)
     
  11. Plo_Koen

    Plo_Koen Jedi Padawan star 4

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    When Obi-Wan says "Anakin was a good friend" in ROTJ, Luke doesn't act surprised. It doesn't seem like this is the first time he hears the name.
     
  12. Indigo_Jade

    Indigo_Jade Jedi Grand Master star 5

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    I don't believe that Obi-Wan ever says that in the movie... I think the only time he refers to "Anakin Skywalker" is when he says "...he ceased to be Anakin Skywalker..." and I would imagine that Luke already knew his name, as there is a pretty long stretch of time between ESB and ROTJ, and I can't see Luke sitting on his hands and not trying to find out as much as he can about another Skywalker.
     
  13. 4LOM

    4LOM Jedi Youngling star 3

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    Yeah, I don't think the name 'Anakin' is said until ROTJ. Even in ESB, the Emperor just refers to Anakin as "Skywalker" when he refers to Luke as "the son of Skywalker".

    I agree that Luke most likely knew Anakin's name beforehand, since he didn't seem too shocked. It's reasonable that he DID know Anakin was from Tattooine (makes sense when you think about it, since Anakin's relatives who Luke was living with lived on Tattooine themselves). No one involved in the Boonta Eve race except the Queen and everyone else who flew on her ship to Tattooine, and later Beru, Cliegg, and Owen, knew that Anakin had any kind of special powers. So Luke's ignorance of the Force and his father being a Jedi Knight is still plausible.

    There are a couple of things I wonder about:

    1) You would think that Anakin's childhood friends, like Kitster, if they knew Anakin had left the planet to train as a Jedi, would be bragging about it to everyone they knew. "I used to be best friends with Anakin, who's a Jedi Knight now." I wonder what happened to these people as they got older, and were they still on the planet when Luke was growing up. Do they know what became of Anakin, as Owen seems to?

    2) Did Own and Beru ever tell Luke about Shmi? Did they ever allude to how she died?
     
  14. darth_Boba

    darth_Boba Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    There's nothing saying that Luke didn't know about Anakin's racing days, just that he didn't know he was a Jedi. Being a racer himself, Luke surely heard rumors that his daddy had some skill, but Owen probably told him that he retired/got injured/whatever before the war and decided to become a freighter pilot. As for the Jedi part, pretty much nobody believes in the Jedi or The Force anymore, so people probably wouldn't bring it up.
     
  15. neo-dragon

    neo-dragon Jedi Master star 3

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    Palpatine had covered up a lot of clone wars and pre-clone wars history. After all, the jedi were thought to be just some practitioners of a hookey old religion by the time of ANH. Luke didn't even know what a lightsaber was until Obi-wan told him. Yoda was the head of the Jedi council and one of the greatest jedi in centuries, and Luke had never heard of him. So it doesn't seem that unlikely that he wouldn't have heard of Anakin as a jedi/hero either. I have a feeling that Palpatine wouldn't want any jedi remembered as "heroes".
     
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