Had Obi Wan actually Joined Dooku in AOTC, then ROTS would be?

Any idea what Dooku would of done if Obi sez, "Yeah ok count, I'll join up with you"

So what next? Does Kenobi beg Yoda to let him rejoin the Jedi?
Does Dooku decide to start his own order and now we have a 3 way power struggle between him and the jedi and Sidious? At least Anakin wouldnt of lost his arm.

Any thoughts on how ROTS would of been different?

 

Kenobi and Dooku would likely not have made it to ROTS as if Dooku tried anything Sidious could make short work of him as well as Kenobi.

 

This could have led to some pretty wild stuff. Dooku could have said "Your apprentice has just arrived and has been captured. We tied up his lady friend. You two will face off in the arena with her tied up watching. No doubt Anakin would have gotten super pissed with evil-kenobi threatened to slice up Senator Amidala. It would have been Sith on Sith at that point. Whatever happens after that? Who knows.

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He wouldnt kill Anakin that fast. He would either leave or rejoin the Jedi once they arrive.

And Sidious couldnt beat Obi-Wan and Dooku. No way.

 

So are jedi then allowed to lie for the common good? Tell Dooku lets join up and everything he wants to hear, untill he has time to do what he wants?

 

I'm pretty sure Dooku would sense it if Obi lied to him.

 

This would be very dangerous, in order to pretend to join up and have it be convincing Obi-Wan would have to start practicing the dark side and sith ways. In the span of days there would be no turning back and we'd have Ben Kenobi, Sith Lord on our hands. Regardless of what the intentions were at the start he'd never turn away from that.

of course the fall out in RotS would be pretty ugly, if they were very lucky Yoda would live, if not no jedi would live. If the kids lived, since obi-wan knew of them and padme and anakin were on geonosis then luke would have been raised from birth as a sith.

I would go so far as to say the entire series hinges on Obi-Wan, if he falls to the darkside by joining Dooku then the emporer will rule indefinately and the jedi would be no more. There would be no "new hopes" or "returns of jedi".

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i can tell i just woke up, i just realized the twins would never be born. If obi-wan fell at that point then anakin would "join him or die" and padme would be as good as dead.

 

The entire saga would have been diffrent,If Obi-wan joined Dooku, Anakin would have joined as well, The three of them would over throw Palpatine and then they would have tried to over throw each other, That is the Sith way, But Obi-wan would have never joined the Sith.

 

Maybe if Obi-wan pretended to join Dooku, just to find out who Sidious was. Palpatine would have Anakin with him at the time. Obi-wan and Dooku would have attacked Palpatine, and Anakin thinking that Obi-wan was trying to kill the defenseless Chancellor would have sprung into action, killing Dooku and fighting Obi-wan.

 

If Dooku managed to lure Obi-Wan away from the Jedi Order, then Palpatine would be amused at best. It would be a blow to the Jedi Order of course, but Palpatine wouldn't trip because he knows Obi-Wan is viewed as Dooku's grandson ala Qui-Gon. The idea of joining Dooku would further the cause of the Separatist and drive a dagger into the heart of the Jedi Order.

 

I dunno, if Dooku could take down Obi-Wan as quickly as he did, even I have to admit that Kenobi would probably get downed by Sidious fairly quickly, which would then lead to Dooku vs. Sidious and Dooku fears Sidious so I think he could take down Dooku as well.

 

Dooku just has Obi-Wan's number. Obi-Wan's not nearly as weak against other combatants (like...Anakin)

 

I mean RotS Obi, not AotC Obi. Dooku would have to lead of course, but Obi is an apt pupil, so if they planned the attack a bit, rather than just attack, they can get him.

 

I'm not saying that Kenobi's weak, it's just that Sidious is powerful. You've gotta be Yoda or Mace to fight him in Episode 3 as in time Anakin would have been able to but he wasn't there yet and Anakin was more powerful than Obi-Wan though in the end that didn't matter for Ani. However unlike with Anakin, Obi-Wan doesn't know how Sidious fights and Sidious won't make the stupid mistakes Anakin does.

As do I, as saber skill wise, Kenobi seemed to be able to hang with Dooku, but all it took was a force grip and throw and Kenobi was out of that fight, and Sidious goes far more Force heavy than Dooku does.

 

According to Nick Gillard, Anakin rises to a level 9 because of the dark side. So Obi-Wan would also rise to level 9 if he turned to the dark side.
I'd expect things to turn out as they did in ROTS but with Obi-Wan and Dooku taking on the roles of Sids and Anakin.
I think that they would be capable of destroying Sidious but then Anakin would remain a Jedi so it's hard to say how strong he would be.

 

Obi-Wan however isn't the Chosen One and the Dark Side may not boost his abilities to the same extent as Obi-Wan doesn't have the same rage to feed on as Anakin does.

 

Not sure what would happen had Obi-Wan joined Dooku. But ROTS would be a lot more interesting.

 

Well the dark side would completely change Obi-Wan. I'm sure that Dooku was never filled with rage when he was a Jedi, and Anakin only gets super mad at certain times and that is only when he taps into the dark side, e.g. tuskens. Remember that after Qui-Gon was killed, Obi-Wan was furious and his abilities with his lightsaber seemed to change through it.

 

Well I dunno.
If Obi-Wan joined Dooku, then Anakin cold concievably go along.
If he didn't, then I'm sure Palpatine would bide his time, use everything to his advantage, and turn Anakin.
Maybe. Or maybe with a new Master, Anakin would be reigned in. That, or he'd fall quicker. Frankly I think he lasted as long as he did because Obi-Wan genuinely cared for him.
So, say Anakin still turns.
You'd have Dooku and Obi-Wan against Sideous and Anakin.
Under Sideous' teachings, Anakin becomes insanely powerful and takes out Dooku while Sideous juggles Obi-Wan.
Order 66 still goes off and Anakin still raides the Temple/offs the Seperatists.
Without Obi-Wan showing up, Anakin has no reason to immediately strangle Padme, so she sticks around.
Mustafar never happens, Anakin becomes wickedly powerful and offs Sideous.
Vader rules the newly inacted Empire with Padme plotting behind his back with Bail.
The children are born and are pulled off in two opposing ways.
Padme flees with one, Vader keeps the other.
Padme uses her forces to combat Vader's Empire while Vader sends off his child to off the opposing sibling.
Without The Chosen One, the Galaxy is doomed, the Rebellion is crushed, and the remaining Vader child offs his or her father after long and the cycle continues.
However, under Vader I can see the Sith taking on a new form. Training the offspring so it essentially becomes the "Skywalker" Sith geneology.
Leia would make one fiery Sith...

 

Why does everyone suppose that OBW would become super powerful if he joined the sith? Dooku was a more powerful Jedi than OBW and still didn't become super powerful. Very powerful is rather the word. I think the dark side stuff is a bit overrated... Besides, OBW would not join - could be cool seeing Mace join however then you'd have one hell of a sith!!

 

Dooku was frusterated enough with Order's "corrutpion" to leave it before he fell so I'd assume that with Obi-Wan he'd just become a far more cold and ruthless warrior with a power boost but not to the same degree of Anakin's.

 

Dooku is very old and past his prime. Obi-Wan is at his peak in Ep3 and wud be very strong.

 

The past his prime thing doesn't apply very well for SW does it? The strongest force users are rather old. The most powerful Jedi = Yoda, 900 years. Second strongest = Mace, 60 or so years. Dooku one of the best saber fighters in the order before he joined the sith. OBW is above average, but not on the same level as Dooku, Mace or Yoda. Also, Sideous is in his 70s, and he's quite powerful...

OBW would be very dangerous as a sith because of his wisdom and cunning. In that respect I see him much like Dooku and even Sideous. However, I doubt if he would become as arrogant, but perhaps all Sith will acquire that attribute sooner or later?

 

Kenobi and Dooku would have beat Sidious and Anakin easy.

 

the scandal of a jedi master joining the CIS was just what palps wanted. let obi wan join, fight and die for the CIS. the citizens of the republican would lose faith in the jedi and thus order 66 and palps new empire would seem neccessary and justified.