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Hal Horn....International Man of Mystery?

Discussion in 'Literature' started by Han Solo Cup, May 21, 2002.

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  1. Han Solo Cup

    Han Solo Cup Jedi Master star 4

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    Ok so what we know about this guy:

    • Real name is Valin Halcyon
    • Son of Nejaa and Scerra Halcyon
    • Adopted father is Rostek Horn
    • Husband of Nyche
    • Father of Corran


    What I would like to know is about his force sensitivity. We know that he changed his name to protect himself from the jedi purge. But if he knew he was a jedi then why didn't he train to become one ever? I mean I know that he was killed by Bossk but still before that he could have. Why didnt he recieve Nejaa's lightsaber instead of Corran? And why didn't he ever tell Corran about being a jedi? Thanks for any and all help!
     
  2. Han Solo Cup

    Han Solo Cup Jedi Master star 4

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    Does anyone have anything at all? A theory? A thought? A criticism???
     
  3. BitterPower

    BitterPower Jedi Youngling star 2

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    He was trained (for a few years anyway) by his father. This was prior to Nejaa's death, so I would say...oh 8-10 years of training. Just the basics really before the Purge.
     
  4. Han Solo Cup

    Han Solo Cup Jedi Master star 4

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    Thank you BP. Why did he just stop being a Jedi though? Did he even tell Corran about it? I think I remember something from I, Jedi about Rostek telling him he was a jedi.
     
  5. GeistDesFritz

    GeistDesFritz Jedi Youngling star 3

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    Corran's father left Corran an encoded message telling him about his heritage. At the end Rostek told him how he protected Hal and his mom from the empire. I think Hal probably stopped being an apprentice after his father died. It wouldn't have been too long after that that the galaxy became a dangerous place for Jedi. Also, with his master dead, it would make sense for him to stop.
     
  6. Han Solo Cup

    Han Solo Cup Jedi Master star 4

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    Alright thanks....guess I should just re-read I, Jedi.
     
  7. Knight1192

    Knight1192 Jedi Knight star 6

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    Hal Horn did not rename himself. And he never gave up being a Jedi because he never recieved enough training to become a Jedi. His father died before he could recieve much training. But he did recieve enough to serve him well.
     
  8. Kelly

    Kelly Jedi Youngling star 2

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    Hal Horn was born Valin Halcyon. At the age of six, his father, Nejaa, a Jedi Master, began training the boy in the Jedi way. A few years later, Nejaa left Corellia to fight in the Clone Wars. He promised his family he would not be killed in the wars. He was as good as his word. He survived the wars, only to die on a mission with two other Jedi shortly after before he had a chance to return home. One of those Jedi, Ylenic It'kla, a Caamasi, brought home Nejaa's effects to his widow, all but Nejaa's lightsaber, which had been requested by the Coruscant Museum's Jedi exhibit. Valin/Hal was ten at this time.

    Not too long after (not sure how long), the Jedi Purges began. Somewhere in this time, Nejaa's widow, Scerra, had fallen in love with an old friend of the family, Rostek Horn. They married and she took the Horn name. Rostek, fearing that Nejaa's son would be found by the Jedi Hunters, adopted the boy and erased all records of Nejaa. Valin took the name Hal to honor the Halcyon name and all that it stood for. I don't think he officially had his name changed to Hal, though, because Hal did tell Corran his real first name was Valin. Rostek also hid away all of Nejaa's effects, telling Nejaa's family they were destroyed. The only thing Hal was allowed to keep was his Jedi Credit that Nejaa had distributed to family and close friends upon his ascension to Master.

    As has been said, Hal never told Corran about their Jedi heritage, but recorded a message for Corran should something happen to Hal before he got a chance to tell Corran himself. Hal did his best to follow the Jedi path covertly within the boundaries of CorSec. He only employed the Force when absolutely necessary, probably to lessen his chances of discovery. When Corran was little, he taught him some very basic Jedi exercises, calling them games that should stay just between them. Aside from that, telling him to trust his instincts, and raising him as close to the Jedi code behaviorwise as he could and get away with it, he taught Corran nothing of his Jedi heritage.

    Anyway, I hope this helps. I will be happy to answer if there are any more questions. The things to reread are I, Jedi (of course) and the short stories Side Trip (Tales of the Empire) and Interlude at Darkknell (Tales of the New Republic). The latter two stories have Hal in them, so you can get an idea what he is like from them. Also check out Hal's section on my page, which you can find in my sig. It's not as complete as I would like it to be, which is why I typed out as much as I did, but there might be a few tidbits there that I did not cover, as well as bios for Nejaa and Rostek.
     
  9. Mavrick889

    Mavrick889 Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    Some of the dating is messed up now, though. Since the clone wars start at 22 BBY, and since Nejaa is most definately alive during them (see Holonet News), Hal Horn must be quite a bit older than 10 during them for the dates to work out.
     
  10. Kelly

    Kelly Jedi Youngling star 2

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    Yes, I'm aware of that. Don't even get me started ranting and raving about the messed up timeline. The dates and ages I used are from the books. Good luck fitting that into the movies.

    The New Essential Guide says in its entry for Corran that Hal went into CorSec and married not long after Rostek married Scerra and Hal had his name change, so maybe they think they're going to age him somewhat. After all, Corran has to be born the same year that Luke is, and it looks like Luke will be born closer to the Clone Wars than we believed for years.
     
  11. Jedi_Horn

    Jedi_Horn Jedi Youngling star 2

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    I Jedi (Book) said that Halcyon died during the clone wars and the he was friends with Jan (Rebal Leader) and Bail Orgna. This leads me to belive that he died fighting in the wars.
     
  12. Leto II

    Leto II Jedi Padawan star 6

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    Originally, Nejaa Halcyon died fighting in the Jedi mission that followed the Clone War which occurred -- according to the earlier Timothy Zahn dating scheme -- prior to The Phantom Menace. Hal/Valin then received some rudimentary Jedi training prior to the next wave of the wars as seen in Attack of the Clones, and the Great Purge.

    But now, as Mavrick pointed out, Nejaa is alive and well prior to Episode II, so smoothing out the entire continuity is going to take some doing, but it might be possible to reconcile Hal's training-timeframe in between AOTC and Episode III. There's enough relative vagueness in several of the references within I, Jedi that it can be finessed in either direction. Probably, in Zahn's upcoming novel(s) that are rumored, he will likely be using this timeline, as well.
     
  13. Kelly

    Kelly Jedi Youngling star 2

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    Leto,

    Nejaa died AFTER the Clone Wars. That doesn't mean after the first battle, but when the wars were over. He told his family he would not die in the wars. Dying after every last battle would prove without a doubt he did not die somewhere in the middle of the Clone Wars.

    To the best of my knowledge, four years are not going to take place between Ep II and Ep III. Nejaa started training Valin/Hal when V/H was six. Hal was 10 when Nejaa died. I also do not believe the wars are going to last for four years. To me, this timeframe would indicate to me that Nejaa started training Hal a few years before the Clone Wars ever took place, meaning a few years before AotC.

    I hope Zahn will be able to shed some light on this entire timeline mess.
     
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