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  1. skyysoblue

    skyysoblue Jedi Youngling star 2

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    When Han was lowered into the chamber, his hands were cuffed behind his back. Yet, when frozen, they were up in the air.

    Any theories on how he broke free?
     
  2. Brandon Rhea

    Brandon Rhea Manager Emeritus star 5 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    The freezing probably shattered them, and then Han threw his hands up while reacting to the pressure.
     
  3. Grand_Moff_Jawa

    Grand_Moff_Jawa Jedi Grand Master star 5

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    I thought this rumor was put to rest ages ago. His hands were NOT cuffed when he was lowered into the pit. Watch CLOSELY and you'll see an Ugnaught unlock his hands. You only see the top of the Ugnaught's head, but that is what he's doing. Play the DVD slowly in that part and you'll catch it.

     
  4. tomandshell

    tomandshell Jedi Youngling

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    Ugnaught removing the cuffs/binders, with second ugnaught approaching to help:
    [image=http://img291.imageshack.us/img291/3354/empirestrikesback07fe.jpg]

    Both ugnaughts removing the cuffs/binders (you can hear a sound effect of them coming off):
    [image=http://img291.imageshack.us/img291/2696/empirestrikesback18qx.jpg]

    Han about to go down, with hands free at his sides:
    [image=http://img291.imageshack.us/img291/152/empirestrikesback25dn.jpg]
     
  5. Ogmios22188

    Ogmios22188 Jedi Master star 4

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    Yeah, it's true. He has binders on, then the Ugnaughts take them off. However, I think he had some sort of bracer holding his arms close to his body, which somehow miraculously disappeared when he was frozen. I could be wrong, though.
     
  6. TK-2432

    TK-2432 Jedi Master star 4

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    I love you


    I know :cool:
     
  7. tomandshell

    tomandshell Jedi Youngling

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    [image=http://img360.imageshack.us/img360/3064/empirestrikesback57ki.jpg]
    Look again at the previous pictures, and you will notice that Han has restraints around his upper arms, which (you can see from the rear shot) are tied together around the back only, the rope keeping him from lifting his arms above the elbows. With his wrists freed, he would be able to lift below the elbows, but not above, resulting in the exact pose that you see when he is frozen in the carbonite.
     
  8. tomandshell

    tomandshell Jedi Youngling

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    The continuity error arrives in Jedi, when Han is released from the carbonite, and the binders on his upper arms and rope connecting them behind his back are no longer present:
    [image=http://img121.imageshack.us/img121/9683/returnofthejedi06is.jpg]
    [image=http://img121.imageshack.us/img121/173/returnofthejedi19lj.jpg]
     
  9. Master_Fargo

    Master_Fargo Jedi Youngling star 1

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    Exactly Tomandshell. I'm Surprised GL has time to change Bobas voice, shaw to Hayden etc but hasnt sorted that error out[face_laugh]
     
  10. Ogmios22188

    Ogmios22188 Jedi Master star 4

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    It's just one of those things. It doesn't have as big of an impact on the story as other things. Most people don't even realize it. I mean, should he fix every other little thing that was changed because of stringing together different takes with CGI? I don't know if that would work out so well.
     
  11. Vindaxxus

    Vindaxxus Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    This was the topic of my first thread when I registered back in 00...
     
  12. Nal_Hutta

    Nal_Hutta Jedi Youngling star 2

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    just an idea...what if the carbonite destroyed the arm brace? I remember reading somewhere that the carbonite just kind of welded together with the brace.
     
  13. solo77

    solo77 Jedi Grand Master star 5

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    Yeah i'll buy into that.

    But to me it's just never been a problem, it just doesn't really matter all that much
     
  14. Dark_Jedi_Kenobi

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    quote=Nal_Hutta]just an idea...what if the carbonite destroyed the arm brace? I remember reading somewhere that the carbonite just kind of welded together with the brace.[/quote]

    It's really not that important of an issue but I think Nall Hutta brought up a pretty good explanation.
     
  15. Chaotic_Serenity

    Chaotic_Serenity Jedi Padawan star 4

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    Hmmm...didn't GL and the producers admit this was a small error in the commentary? That the took the cast of Harrison Ford for teh shoot and later shot it differently? Or am I thinking of something else in this scene?
     
  16. CIDLORD

    CIDLORD Jedi Youngling star 3

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    Mmm. Besides, Han looked a little fatter in ROTJ after being freed from the carbonite... Another mistake...
     
  17. Darth_Twilight

    Darth_Twilight Jedi Youngling star 2

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    Didn't you know that carbonite is fattening? ;)
     
  18. Golden_Jedi

    Golden_Jedi Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    No, no, ne he was just...swollen? because... the carbonite exerted high pressure over his body, so he was not only defrozen, but decompressed as well.:D
     
  19. andkiich

    andkiich Jedi Youngling star 1

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    Don't you know that carbonite gives you the bloat! :)
     
  20. Polar555

    Polar555 Jedi Youngling

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    Theres more continuity things to worry about like the AT-ST Walkers randomly dissapearing during hoth and R2-D2 not blowing up in some shots during yavin.
     
  21. jedi_master_ousley

    jedi_master_ousley Force Ghost star 8

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    This isn't something that I've ever noticed unless pictures are posted, even after it's been pointed out to me. Actually, most of the "errors" in the films are like that - I'm too enthralled by the film to even notice them.
     
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