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Lit Has Shaak Ti's death in the TFU been retconned?

Discussion in 'Literature' started by Graves101, Mar 12, 2014.

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  1. Graves101

    Graves101 Jedi Padawan star 1

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    Ok there was some speculation of Shaak Ti's unspecified fate a long time ago. A deleted scene of ROTS showed her getting pierced in the chest by Grievous and killed but that was it. As The Force Unleashed is a critical storyline set between ROTS and ANH, Shaak Ti's fate and activities were expanded upon at last. She killed herself at the end of the battle with Starkiller and Felucia fell into chaos.

    However, a recent episode of the Lost Episodes of the Clone Wars TV series seems to directly contradict this when Yoda sees a vision of the eventual destruction of various Jedi. While the rest of the council's deaths are accurately envisioned, Shaak Ti is seen to be kneeling down and pierced by a blue blade, exactly like the ROTS deleted scene, and nothing of Starkiller or Felucia is seen.

    Can someone please tell me if it was retconned?
     
  2. Iron_lord

    Iron_lord 50x Wacky Wed/3x Two Truths/28x H-man winner star 10 VIP - Game Winner

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    There's been a few claims that TFU's origin story for the Rebellion is being retconned in favour of TCW and maybe Rebels.

    That said - it's still in the timeline of the Star Wars Fact File relaunch - and I think PROXY was one of the featured characters in one of the issues.

    Main evidence against Grievous killing her - she's in one of the briefing scenes in RoTS, as a hologram.
     
  3. DigitalMessiah

    DigitalMessiah Chosen One star 6

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    I still do not understand how a vision contradicts anything.

    Jacen had a vision on Belkadan in Dark Tide I: Onslaught. And it didn't happen. Anakin Solo had a vision of Tahiri as a Yuuzhan Vong dark sider in Edge of Victory I: Conquest. It didn't happen.

    Always in motion is the future.
     
  4. MistrX

    MistrX Jedi Master star 4

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    I thought maybe it was the other Shaak Ti death i.e. Anakin offing her in the Temple. But as DigitalMessiah points out, just because it's a vision doesn't mean that's how it will happen. As Yoda himself later notes, the future is always in motion. If they wanted to keep TFU, they could simply say that Yoda was looking into a possible future, some which came true and some which didn't.
     
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  5. Darth Eddie

    Darth Eddie Jedi Master star 4

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    As much as I enjoyed TFU, it's not really canon, and I can be okay with that.

    In fact, video games in general are on another plane of canon. They always seem to go so far in extreme directions compared to what's seen in the movies or cartoons. The Super Star Wars trilogy comes to mind. I would deduce that TFU is not canon for the same reason those games aren't canon.
     
  6. Vthuil

    Vthuil Force Ghost star 5

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    If it has, it'd be like the third time.
     
  7. Zorrixor

    Zorrixor Chosen One star 6

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    Not massively bothered if it is, will just pretend Starkiller killed some other Togruta (actually, that'd be kinda cool, Vader's Sith apprentice being sent to kill his former Jedi apprentice).

    Still, visions... Yoda pretty much answers that one in ESB.
     
  8. CooperTFN

    CooperTFN TFN EU Staff Emeritus star 7 VIP

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    Interestingly, the episode notes for the Clovis arc mention that the droid who delivers the little hologram of Dooku was originally going to become Dooku PROXY-style. So the material is still out there, in any event.
     
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  9. Zorrixor

    Zorrixor Chosen One star 6

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    PROXY droids...

    Why did it never occur to us before that those are the ultimate retcon solution. [face_laugh]
     
  10. GrandAdmiralJello

    GrandAdmiralJello Comms Admin ❉ Moderator Communitatis Litterarumque star 10 Staff Member Administrator

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    Pft you kids and your disguise droids. Back in my day we just retconned everybody as a clone or just said Obi-Wan was lying.


    Misa ab iPhono meo est.
     
  11. DarthJenari

    DarthJenari Jedi Master star 4

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    Haven't seen the episode in question, but if the deaths of the rest of the Council were accurate, then i'd call that a retcon to Shaak Ti's.
     
  12. CooperTFN

    CooperTFN TFN EU Staff Emeritus star 7 VIP

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    A few specific bits were authentic, but the first half of the sequence is a big Jedi/clone battle sequence that doesn't even remotely happen.
     
  13. DigitalMessiah

    DigitalMessiah Chosen One star 6

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    YET!

    Besides, as much as we complain when TCW contradicts stuff, we're all too eager to have it contradict stuff we dislike!
     
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  14. CooperTFN

    CooperTFN TFN EU Staff Emeritus star 7 VIP

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    I was secretly hoping it would contradict you.
     
  15. DigitalMessiah

    DigitalMessiah Chosen One star 6

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  16. MercenaryAce

    MercenaryAce Chosen One star 6

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    It's Crokes! I keep telling you people its Crokes! Why does everyone refuse to see the truth in front of them? Why?!
     
  17. Force Smuggler

    Force Smuggler Chosen One star 7

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    Visions. Can't trust them.
    My personal view is that Anakin killed her in ROTS.
     
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  18. _Catherine_

    _Catherine_ Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    Still can't believe Haden Blackman had the gall to kill off Shaak Ti in TFU after Lucas already killed her twice in ROTS. I mean has he never even heard of G-canon? What a fraud.
     
  19. DigitalMessiah

    DigitalMessiah Chosen One star 6

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    I count Yoda's vision as a fourth death. Like when Yoda witnessed that vision, she died on Kamino.
     
  20. Darth Mird'ika

    Darth Mird'ika Jedi Padawan

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    Shak Ti
    Shaak Ti
    Shaaak Ti
    Shaaaak Ti


    It wasnt really Shaak Ti in TFU. It was Asohka pretending to be Shaak Ti. ;-)
     
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  21. Mat Skywalker

    Mat Skywalker Jedi Master star 4

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    Shaak Fu

    [​IMG]
     
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  22. Skaddix

    Skaddix Jedi Grand Master star 5

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    Please TFU is alt continuity now as it should be
     
  23. DigitalMessiah

    DigitalMessiah Chosen One star 6

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    Yep that's how continuity works. I guess the Thrawn trilogy was made alt continuity by Episode II, right?
     
  24. TrandoJedi

    TrandoJedi Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    I think making Shaak Ti as Ashoka in TFU would be a cool twist, as Zorrixor said having Vader's apprentice go after his former apprentice.

    I know TFU isn't regarded as the greatest thing, but its part of the EU so its canon to me!
     
  25. Mat Skywalker

    Mat Skywalker Jedi Master star 4

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    Shaak Ti's bikini for canon

    [​IMG]

    Seriously, why is she the only major character without pants in that game ?
     
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