Have They Retconned The Spaarti Cloning Cylinders?

Having just re-read the Thrawn trilogy about a month ago, I noticed that this is one of the biggest glaring continuity problems between the films and the EU. Has this been retconned in any of the post-AOTC EU material?

 

I hope so, but Zahn will probably ruin it in hisbook coming out in 2008. Hopefully the world as we know will end before then. That's how much I'm looking forward to it.

 

Don't worry my friend. Zahn has already fixed it in his short story Hero of Cartao. It is in Insider and it might be on Hyperspace by now.

 

They did some Jedi stuff on Wayland didn't they? Presumably its a cloning factory there.

A "Site B" for clones

 

As yet, there's no flub: we know from HttE that at the end of the Clone Wars, the Fleet faced insane clones grown too fast in sets of Spaarti cylinders, produced by some people called the "Clonemasters"; in "Hero of Cartao", we see the prototype set of Spaarti cylinders stolen by Palpatine, with their "destruction" being blamed on the Jedi.

My guess is that the Jedi will take the blame for a few armies of unstable clones that appear late in the Clone Wars, go insane, and have to be put down by the Fleet...

Sadly, however, I rather fear that what we'll get instead will be Seperatist-cloned Morgukai facing off against Jedi...

- The Imperial Ewok

 

the spaarti clones then can´t be of Jango Fett as template. because he is dead by that time. so who will they clone? maybe that fixes the numbers problems with a too small kaminoan clone army to cover the whole galaxy with warfare. clones of others served, too with the GAR and in masses, but these, wern´t as good as the kaminoan clones and turned mad.

 

CH: you don't need a living specimin for a Spaarti clone - just a tissue sample (for instance, Luke's hand in The Last Command) and a "flash-print" for their mind...

A cultured specimin of Jango's DNA and a flash-print from a clonetrooper (or ARC/Republic Commando to taste) would be enough to create an entire army that way...

- The Imperial Ewok

 

why then did they stop using clones and started recruiting people like those bad shooting stormies in ANH?

 

that doesn´t sound true, because you train a hired soldier for about 1-3 years in the academy. same goes with clones, and they are easier to breed&train and much better in their fighting! they don´t need any hobbies or free time.

and when fast-cloning tech is used, like they had in the late clone wars, producing clones within a couple of weeks, flash imprinted the whole training. it is cheaper that way.

but there´s always clone madness to counter my theory

 

To disguise stormtroopers are clones, though High Command knew they were.

There was a major backlash against cloning like with Jedi

 

For the umpteenth time, the so-called "bad-shooting" Stormtroopers in ANH were ORDERED to let the rebels escape. Something impossible to achive, if they hit them with their blasters.

 

they were ordered in ANH, but they wern´t in the other movies! so why are they still shooting bad in these? did they like that order so much they kept it? fools

 

The stormtroopers ripped the rebels in ANH. Save when they were ordered to let them go.

In the Empire Strikes back they ripped the rebels. Lord Vader made it clear he wanted Leia and company alive though.

So again let them go.

In Return of the Jedi they were horrifically affected by Jango Fett's childhood fear of bear cubs from a mauling incident in his youth.

 

they were ordered in ANH, but they wern´t in the other movies! so why are they still shooting bad in these? did they like that order so much they kept it? fools

Hmmmm, could it be because it's just a movie and not everything happens to way you want it to? Yeah, I think so.

 

Stormtroopers are trained to fight in the narrow smoke-and-steel environment of bases, battlestations and warships - in the OT, we see them do everything that's asked of them, until Endor...

On Endor, they're caught in totally unfamiliar terran by a determined local enemy who all their equipment simply *can't detect*, led by a Wookie veteran whose battlefield traps take out their armour support...

- The Imperial Ewok

 

Don't forget that Endor hardwood is actually stronger than steel.

Ewolks are also about as strong as normal human beings as well for their size. The little buggers size is decieving.

They stabbed the stormtroopers under the armpits and in their necks.