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[HCSF] Will Jar Jar die onscreen ?

Discussion in 'Archive: Revenge of the Sith (Non-Spoilers)' started by Obi_Frans, Sep 11, 2004.

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  1. Obi_Frans

    Obi_Frans Jedi Padawan star 4

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    Easily the most controversial character to come out of the prequels, a lot of people like to say George cut down his presence in Clones because of the reactions.

    I don't think so, but that's beside the point. I'm not going to call myself the biggest Jar Jar fan here, cause i'd be lying - with that said, i'd be pretty shocked if he is actually killed off onscreen in Episode III.

    So, my fellow nonspoilered people, a thought ???
     
  2. Obi_Frans

    Obi_Frans Jedi Padawan star 4

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    Personally, with all the deaths that we know are going to be seeing in Episode III...

    ...I don't think Jar Jar will be one. I can't even see what his death would mean to the overall story, it could be a nice kick-off to the Episode (like the assassination attempt on Padme does to Clones). But i still don't see it happening.

    Either way, the critics are going to have a fieldday with Lucas no matter what he does with Jar Jar ("Lucas abandonds character, knows he was a mistake blah blah" to "Lucas kills off character, knows he was a mistake").

    but then again, who really pays attention to critics.
     
  3. RebelScum77

    RebelScum77 Manager Emeritus star 6 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    Well we know he's not going to be in the movie much... he's such a minor character at this point. So what's it worth?

    Actually this question was answered months ago in a Hyperspace chat, so obviously it's not a major thing either way.
     
  4. Obi_Frans

    Obi_Frans Jedi Padawan star 4

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    Actually i didn't know that (had guessed it though) but yeah, if he did indeed die his role wouldn't have diminished so (unlike Mace, who became more prominent).
     
  5. hew

    hew Jedi Master star 4

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    No, I think he'll be even more ignored than he was in AOTC.
     
  6. stormcloud8

    stormcloud8 Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    And ultimately, having the character ignored is more of an insult than killing him onscreen. At last...we will be rid of Jar Jar binks...at last we will have revenge.
     
  7. Lars_Muul

    Lars_Muul Jedi Grand Master star 6

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    I believe that we will see a disillusioned Jar Jar Binks in ROTS. A sad person who has lost all the innocence that he had in TPM and AOTC. We will understand that Jar Jar is in fact one of the most tragic characters in the saga. In the beginning, he was a carefree(and rather careless) outcast with the mind of a child. In the end, he will have transformed into a grave senator who blames all the bad things that have befallen the galaxy on himself.
    I don't believe that he will die, because if he died, he would most likely die a redeeming death by saving someone's life. That wouldn't be tragic. To have him return to his people on Naboo and stay there for the rest of his life, contemplating what he has done, would be a much more powerful ending to Jar Jar's story.

    ...or he could just die needlessly. That would also be very tragic.
     
  8. vikingjedi1

    vikingjedi1 Jedi Youngling star 2

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    Hopefully. I would love to see Anakin just go off on him. It would help solidify Anakins turn to the darkside. Maybe Jar Jar can sacrifice himself to allow Obi-wan, Yoda, and Padme' to escape.
     
  9. IceGambit

    IceGambit Jedi Youngling star 1

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    I like the idea two posts above. A needless death is the most shocking and tragic, but you have to remember that we are dealing with a guy who put Ewoks in ROTJ just to cater towards little kids. I sincerely doubt Lucas would kill off what he feels is a good connection to little kids.
     
  10. stormcloud8

    stormcloud8 Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    Plus, if Anakin or Vader kills Jar-Jar, he will become the greatest hero ever in the Star Wars universe. And that's not the goal of ROTS. He could kill Mace and Padme and Yoda and the twins with his bare hands, and he would be forgiven if he just whacked that Gungan freak.

    Conversely...if Darth Vader were to save Jar-Jar from a certain death, his journey to the Dark Side would be complete and he would become the ultimate villain.
     
  11. Raz Zaphon

    Raz Zaphon Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    but you have to remember that we are dealing with a
    guy who put Ewoks in ROTJ just to cater towards little kids.


    He put them in for the idea of having a primitave race defeat the stormtroopers. He's said this several times. You're not a mind reader so you'd sound a bit more intellegent if you speculated based on facts rather than assumption. It's for this reason that I do think George is capable of doing it, however RotS may be dark enough without Jar Jar dying.

    It won't neccesarily prove anything if Vader does equally evil things to killing Jar Jar. It depends if George thinks many people will have enough of an emotional investment in Jar Jar to get upset by his death, rather than an emotional investment in other characters that Anakin would have a good reason to kill. But if he does, I'd wager it'll get more cheers on opening night than anything else in the movie...
     
  12. Lars_Muul

    Lars_Muul Jedi Grand Master star 6

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    Kids certainly do like Jar Jar. If he was killed, they would be more than upset. Some of them would probably never want to see ROTS again.
    ...So maybe killing him off isn't such a good idea? :)

    Actually, I find the thought of Jar Jar dying unreal. It just feels impossible. I will be sincerely shocked if it happens.
     
  13. Obi_Frans

    Obi_Frans Jedi Padawan star 4

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    "Actually, I find the thought of Jar Jar dying unreal. It just feels impossible. I will be sincerely shocked if it happens. "

    That's exactly how i feel about it
     
  14. vikingjedi1

    vikingjedi1 Jedi Youngling star 2

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    Think about this fact:

    Possibly every main character from the beginning of Episode 1 is dead by the end of ROTJ.

    All of the Jedi (including Obi-wan and Yoda), Mace, Padme', Vader, the Emperor, Darth Maul, the storm troopers, Anakins mom, Boba Fett, Jango Fett, Dooku (most likely), everybody in the death star's when they blew up, and even some Ewoks.

    Jar Jar has to die.
     
  15. IceGambit

    IceGambit Jedi Youngling star 1

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    " He put them in for the idea of having a primitave race defeat the stormtroopers. He's said this several times. You're not a mind reader so you'd sound a bit more intellegent if you speculated based on facts rather than assumption."

    Why did he make that primitive race so cute-looking and cuddly, huh? He could've made a very imposing and fierce primitive race, but he opts instead for teddy bears.

    As a poster above said, killing Binks off would lead to little kids not liking the movie, and, this is the key, not wanting to see it again with different family members. In this case, it boils down to money.
     
  16. Obi_Frans

    Obi_Frans Jedi Padawan star 4

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    The ewoks ARE incredibly fierce, especcially considering the fact they look like teddy-bears.

    "Judge me by my size, do you?"
     
  17. RebelScum77

    RebelScum77 Manager Emeritus star 6 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    Jar Jar really isn't a main character... anymore. I'm all for death and destruction, but I just can't see this happening. For the kid factor alone... he's the one character created especially for them.

    And the thing about all those other main character deaths- they serve some purpose (except for perhaps Boba, but that's anomalous) in furthering the story, by affecting character or plot. I mean this could happen with Jar Jar, but he's become a pretty minor character, it seems unlikely. His purpose was served by giving Palpatine emergency powers, done.
     
  18. stormcloud8

    stormcloud8 Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    The purpose of Jar-Jar's death could be show that even the innocent and child-like will suffer at the hands of the Empire.

    But as much as I pray for his death, I think it unlikely. I think the ultimate insult would be if he showed up in some ROTJ-edited celebration on the OT DVD. I would have to renounce all things Star Wars if that happens.
     
  19. Billy_Dee_Binks

    Billy_Dee_Binks Force Ghost star 4

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    I hope not. Some morons in the audience would eventually cheer during his death scene if there's going to be one.

    I pity those fools.

    http://www.mste.uiuc.edu/courses/ci303fa01/students/mulford/Science/mr.t.jpg
     
  20. vikingjedi1

    vikingjedi1 Jedi Youngling star 2

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    I probably wouldnt cheer, but I would be pretty damn happy ;)
     
  21. IceGambit

    IceGambit Jedi Youngling star 1

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    "I think the ultimate insult would be if he showed up in some ROTJ-edited celebration on the OT DVD. I would have to renounce all things Star Wars if that happens."

    Agreed. Lucas will be getting hate mail for that one.
     
  22. Ghost_Jedi

    Ghost_Jedi Jedi Grand Master star 6

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    There was a thread while back in the aotc forum about what the purpose of jarjar was. There were several posters that agreed that JarJar serves the role of the innocent manipulated by the empire. Also if he is killed by AnaVader it would show how far AnaVader has fallen. Perhaps Mace could supply a link.
     
  23. Raz Zaphon

    Raz Zaphon Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    Damn, I wish this board had an ignore function.

    I'll cheer when if he dies. On opening night, practically everything remotely cool is going to get a cheer, death scenes aren't an exception. Judging by the bad attitude of local audiences, Jar Jar's death would probably be bad for my hearing.
     
  24. Ellbobin

    Ellbobin Jedi Padawan star 4

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    I hope not. It would be strange, I just cant see him dying, gungans are just the type of characters that you don?t see die.
     
  25. Ghost_Jedi

    Ghost_Jedi Jedi Grand Master star 6

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    Just remember ewoks died in rotj, heck the camera even focused on the corpse(y) of one for 6 seconds! And this was in the movie that was the most upbeat, just think what GL will do in the darkest of the movies?
     
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