how can you hate the ewoks?

i know a lot of people hate the ewoks but i don't know the reasons. i know they say they were just put in there to sell toys but the whole movie of avatar was created to sell toys dousn't mean people didn't like it. besides they are basicly just wookiees exept smaller.

the second reason people said they hate them is that it isn't believable for them to beat the empire. WOW... that just blows my mind. are you flippin serious? no ****ing duh they can beat the empire. a bunch of 9 year olds with guns could have beaten the empire. the stormtroopers and scoutroopers would be beaten by a couple of red shirts. they have terrible aim they are incredibly stupid and they die no matter what hits them, even if they get hit in the leg.

So why do people hate ewoks? by the way this is coming from a guy who despises jar jar. and no i didn't grow up with the original trilogy i was 6 in 1997 when the special editions came out. it was only 2 years later the phantom menace came out.

 

I really like the Ewoks, they are one of my favorite species from the OT. The reasons that people give for the hating are weak and have no substance except for "They look dumb".

But they did not beat the Empire in ROTJ, they were mearly a distraction for the rebels to get into the sheild bunker.

 

I have no problems with Ewoks. But i think the hate towards these creatures comes from the fact that they were used in a battle. Damn, there are billions of other choices for creatures who could have battled against the empire, why did it have to be tiny teddy bears?

 

Ewoks are awesome! I love that scene where they sneak up on a couple of stormies and whack them senseless
I also agree with ILuvJarJar; they distracted the Imperials more than anything else. And I also love Jar Jar





Whacking - it's senseless
/LM

 

I don't hate the Ewoks. I just find their victory over the Imperials highly improbable.

 

Um, didn't the rebels help the Ewoks anyway? Its not like they took on the entire empire single-handedly.

Why do some people hate Ewoks? I'll try a few guesses.

1) They hate fun.
2) They hate short people.
3) They have no sense of humor.
4) They take this stuff WAY too seriously.

 

where is that "Star Wars fans hate Star Wars" article?

 

Damn, there are billions of other choices for creatures who could have battled against the empire, why did it have to be tiny teddy bears?
Yep, and with their non moving eyes which always bothered me. Its so un-natural and cheap looking, like special effects from a 1950's "B" movie. Very un-Star Wars-ie like. I dont hate the Ewoks, but tons of better choices could have been made, even without script changes.
Oh, and also their un-limber-like movements in the stunts. It just doesnt seem to fit right.

 

Wow just read that. Maybe I should expect much less from Star Wars fans.

 

I don't hate Ewoks. But ever since I heard that originally it was going to be Wookies in that final battle, I've felt kind of cheated.

 

As a concept, sure, why not? But the execution kinda sucked.

Compare them to Jawas: They were also short, cute in a way they would appeal to kids, and could be described as a bit comical. But, they also had a certain menace about them, and you knew their unseen faces weren't "cute". That made them more than one-dimensional, and made them way more believable.

Ewoks, otoh... I just couldn't suspensd disbelief. They were just kid actors in furry pajamas.

 

The only thing I did not like about ewok scenes were when thrown rocks were taking out Stormtroopers. The rope tricks on speeder bikes were cool, the tree smashing AT-ST's were visually interesting.

The symbology is good. It is in fairy tales a woodland creature that gives the protegonist what they need or leads them to their destiny. It is a minor resemblence, but Leia and Wicket are Alice and the White Rabbit.

 

First of all, let me state that I don't have any problem whatsoever with Ewoks as a concept, i.e. a primitive, indigenous tribe that is able to defeat a technologically superior force (i.e., the Imperials).

The big problem I have with the Ewoks is the way their were used in ROTJ, & their appearance:

- First of all, my preference would have been for Wookies to have taken the place of Ewoks in the film - my understanding was that this was originally the initial plan by Lflm., and this would have made the final battle with the Imperials much more dramatic and meaningful; in SW mythology Wookies had been enslaved by the Imperials, and could have been shown to have been getting their revenge in these scenes. However, my understanding as to why Wookies weren't used was two-fold: First, Lflm. felt that Chewie had been established as being able to use and be familiar with advanced technology in ANH and ESB, and therefore showing Wookies using primitive rocks/boulders/traps would have undermined this idea (I disagree, but that's just me). More importantly, however, it would have been extremely difficult logistically in 1982 to find and outfit a large group of huge, 6 1/2 - 7 foot tall actors/actresses to play the Wookies (since this was before CGI). So, because of these things I can understand why Wookies were't used, but I still think of them whenever I see the Ewoks in ROTJ.

- Second, The Ewoks are, for the most part, way too cute to take seriously. Their appearance as teddy bears (who, for all practical purposes resemble stuffed animals) is very distracting, and it's difficult to think of them as fierce warriors. HOWEVER, this issue could have been solved if all of the Ewoks in the film resembled Teebo? (I think that's the one), the dark-furred, fierce looking warrior Ewok that approached Han in the scene when they fell out of the animal net trap. This little guy really looked mean, and all of the Ewoks should have looked more like him than like Wicket or Chief Chirpa.

- Irrespective of the Ewoks' appearance, some of the battle scene with the Imperials were played for laughs (i.e., the Ewok accidentally wrapping the bolo around his head), which undermined the drama of the situation - this really ruined these scenes for me.

- Also irrespective of the Ewoks' appearance, the initial scenes when the heroes first met them (the scene when Wicket found Leia among the wreckage of the Speeder bike, the scene with the heroes trapped in the net, the scene when the heroes were tied up on the sticks, the scene when Threepio/Luke convinced them to join the cause against the Imperials, etc.) were silly/foolish and really dragged, and IMHO brought the film down. I don't think these scenes needed to be in the film, because I don't think there needed to be any kind of exposition/explanation in the film intially introducing the Ewoks to the heroes - this should have been done off-screen, and could have been referred to later. Showing all of this was unecessary, and the time spent with these scenes could have been better spent with more bunker battle scenes in the finale. However, if these scenes had to be in there, I think they should definitely have been done completely differently - many of these scenes were also played for laughs, and as such were out of place in a SW film (IMHO).

- During the bunker battle scene, I don't think I once saw the small group of Rebel Commandos (in green) fighting the Imperials, except in the background. It would have been cool to see them fighting alongside the Ewoks, since they were supposed to be working together. This may have happened, of course, but it wasn't shown (not from what I can remember, at least).

This all being said, I am a big fan of the two made-for-TV Ewok films (1984 & 1985), as well as the '85-'86 Ewoks cartoon series. I actually think the Ewoks were much more interesting in these types of mediums, for some reason, and preferred seeing them here than in ROTJ. I especially like the Ewok TV films (Caravan of Courage & Battle fo

 

The scene of the team peering over a log on Endor also reminds me of the team peering over the rocks outside the Wicked Witch of the North's castle.

 

I don't hate the Ewoks. I just dislike them. I disliked the "cutesy" manner in which they were portrayed.

 

Dude, frankly you could be describing half of the Cantina aliens. It's VERY Star Wars. (And don't give me that mood lighting argument! I can clearly see the rubber masks on Greedo and Figrin D'an a mile away!)

I think there's an awkward aversion to cuteness in our notoriously man-boy-centric community that we really need to confront. If something isn't pure masculinity in SW, then it is immediately questioned. And elements that purely exist as masculine kewl (read: Fett) are given more credit than they deserve. It's rubbish.

 

Though, as we have learned, appearances can be deceiveing. That is what i tell myself everytime i watch the Endor scenes.

Also, considering the Ewoks are the native species of the planet, there will be a whole bunch of them fighting the empire. Probably a lot more of them than we see on screen. Plus, they were fighting in their own environment, witch is always a great advantage; and the rebels were there as well, Chewi did a lot of work with the Imp walker.

So if we take a better look at this absurd situation, we can at least begin to accept that this was in fact a realistic scenario..

 

I hate the Ewoks. Why?

1)Well they speak in 'squeak' without any subtitles and have to be interpreted. This is cool for a sentence or two, but grew annoying to the point of wanting to stab myself with a pencil rather than listen to CP30 interpret AGAIN.

2)They are small and furry and so they appear to move quickly. They remind me of tumbleweed or dust balls or those things the cat coughs up. And there were a lot of them so trying to follow any one of them on screen was highly irritating.

3) They are arrogant in their helpfulness and when they decide to kill you also. It was so silly to have them gain control over the heroes and act as some kind of big threatening fur coat. It was all just a big misunderstanding harking back to the #1 reason I hate them. So what we got was a long winded explanation with interpretation and miscommunication while everything got straightened out.

4) I think they were loosely based on the chipmonks. I hated the chipmonks because my older brother made me listen to their christmas album every year with those voices that were oddly ewokian.

5) They look the same whether they are celebrating or fighting. I was never certain whether I should be celebrating or crying as a child when I saw SW. That was an A class molestation.

6)The # 1 reason was perhaps due to all of the above, I was completely bored while their parts were on screen. Note much of the action going on AROUND them could be interesting (the motos through the forest for instance) - but when they were the "stars" of the scene, I was bored.

I hate the Ewoks - and I might be in the minority. I was very young when I made that judgment, but maturity and age hasn't changed my mind about it. They are not cute, they are not funny, they are not delightful; they are highly irritating and annoying.

 

I admit that I don't like the Ewoks in the films. However without them; the cartoon series would have never been made and I love that cartoon (especially with Princess Kneesaa and her gorgeous pink hood with the gem on top).

 

Meh, it's always pretty obvious what they Ewoks were saying, at least to me.

 

I think it was just that for some people there was too much Ewok. Some people wanted the end of the saga to be dark and heavy, like TESB was, but because the Ewoks were playing such a large part, the whole darkness mojo got detracted from.

 

I don't hate the Ewoks, probably because I was six when I saw ROTJ, and pretty much accepted them. But I can see how someone might not like them, if they saw ANH when they were nine, so by the time ROTJ came out they would be fifteen and not like such "cutesy kid's stuff".

That, or they take this stuff too seriously, like one poster said earlier.

 

Why? Because when I'm eleven hours into a sweeping space opera, I'm not exactly enthralled by a subplot hinging on whether or not our heroes are inducted into a bloody tribe of teddy bears.

We've been treated to pod races, operahouse lures, and spiritual teachings in an exotic swamp, and this is how Star Wars ends? Luke Skywalker hanging over a campfire in California?

Take me back to Coruscant! Now!

 

^^^^^^

Lol.. Star Wars is strange indeed. We just have to accept that Star Wars is a grown up tale, but its all wraped up very pretty, and captured in a childlike form..

(What if fifty years from now, someone decide that its time to renew the SW saga. But this time the director do what they did with Batman. The new Bat movies are much darker and more adult in nature. They should do the same with SW one day.)

 

I hate to constantly refer back to the infamous TPM review, but there is something to be said about a climax/finale that is focused and given room to breathe as opposed to juggling several plot points that have to be tied together -like in TPM and RotJ. Almost every SW fan loves the Luke-Vader-Emperor confrontation: great dialogue, extremely powerful and poignant moments, etc. I feel the battle takes a little bit away from those scenes. Maybe if the battle -at least on the ground- were resolved sooner, we wouldn't dwell as much on them -I do feel a little too much time is spent on Endor: the film does drag a bit after the landing. It would give RotJ a bit of a darker climax before the heroes finally emerge victorious in the end.