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How come they never cut themsleves ?

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  1. tbhp

    tbhp Jedi Youngling

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    So, i know the force give them surnatural concentration and all, but still they remain humans, they can make mistakes. Don't you think strange that jedi spend all their live using their lightsabers and still they never cut themsleves by accident ? Well, maybe some did, but none of the jedi we know ever had this problem, and that includes Yoda and Sidious who lived for many centuries. And remember, with a lightsaber you don't have to strike, just touch it and you are done. So is there an explanation to that, or are we required to believe they are truly infaillible ?
     
  2. Sistros

    Sistros Jedi Grand Master star 6

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    Sidious hasn't lived for centuries :confused:

    in answer to your question, nothey are masters of the art of sword play, whichmeans they won't cut themselves,force or not.

     
  3. Darth_Nub

    Darth_Nub Manager Emeritus star 5 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    I thought this thread was going to be about emo Jedi & self-harm. Moving along...
     
  4. Jabba_The_Hutt_123

    Jabba_The_Hutt_123 Jedi Master star 3

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    Dont Jedi start out with training sabres instead, and by the time they become a Padawan they'd be used to a normal sabre.
     
  5. Ree

    Ree Jedi Master star 5

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    actually so did I *hangs head in embarassment and leaves*
     
  6. Alexrd

    Alexrd Chosen One star 6

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    Many people never had a car accident in their lives. Are supposed to believe they are truly infaillible? Plus, you said yourself, they have the Force.
     
  7. tbhp

    tbhp Jedi Youngling

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    But the example of the car accident doesn't really work, because an accident is rare while it is easy to touch yourself with a weapon, especially at the speed they are swinging them. Look at the swordsmen in our world for example, even the best champion must strike himself from time to time.

    So yeah i think the only good explanation is that the force gives them surhuman condentration.

    As for sidious, i looked on wikipedia and indeed he didn't live for centuries. That's a bit strange, considering the movies give you the impression of a sort of god, who has been there conspiring for centuries. But then how is he able to compete with yoda at such a young age ?
     
  8. EmeraldBlade

    EmeraldBlade Jedi Youngling star 2

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    I think it is crazy that the Sith use sabers. If they have evolved beyond them they sholuld not bother.

    All it takes is for you to have the thing the wrong way around when you turn it on, and you are dead.

    To hell with that.

     
  9. EmeraldBlade

    EmeraldBlade Jedi Youngling star 2

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    Well, Vader has had his arm cut off about eleventybillion times.

    Makes you wonder if he enjoys it.
     
  10. Darth_Nub

    Darth_Nub Manager Emeritus star 5 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    All he wants is for someone to understand and pay him some attention. Obi-Wan was overly critical and never listened...
     
  11. Alexrd

    Alexrd Chosen One star 6

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    Says who? And how the car accident example doesn't work? They could be as common as lightsaber accidents.
     
  12. ILuvJarJar

    ILuvJarJar Jedi Grand Master star 6

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    The've trained since they were toddlers. Didn't you see the Youngling/Yoda scene in AOTC?

    I'm sure after all of that time they learn how to weild a lightsaber without getting hurt.

    I mean look at the Tom Cruise in The Last Samurai. He learned to weild two swords in like 5 months and become an expert fighter.

    So If these people are training all of their childhood and continue to adulthood, they'd have no problem.
     
  13. ForceJumpAnakin

    ForceJumpAnakin Chosen One star 4

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    Sidious had an apprentice who completed his lightsaber training. As a reward he gave him a double sided red saber. He was so excited that he wanted to test it right away, he held it with one end facing him and the other one pointing away. Unfortunately, he pressed the wrong button directly causing his death by self-impalement. Sidious then jotted down "face both ends away from self" on his Saber Training List. This is why you see Maul keeping his saber at a distance whenever he turned it on.
     
  14. EmeraldBlade

    EmeraldBlade Jedi Youngling star 2

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    More to the point (in my mind anyway), who did Luke spar with?

    Did he just know how to use that thing?

    Obi wan did not even warn him to be careful with it!
     
  15. mjerome3

    mjerome3 Jedi Knight star 6

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    Any remember when Obi-Wan was introducing the lightsaber to Luke? He referred to it as an elegant weapon for a civilized age. Anyone could handle a blaster, but it took one who was far above the ordinary to wield a lightsaber. This is the reason why the Jedi or Sith never injured themselves while using their weapons. Through extensive training, they learned how to handle the lightsaber weapon using great swordsmanship.
     
  16. anakinandpadmedoomed

    anakinandpadmedoomed Jedi Padawan star 4

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    It would of been bloodshed if i used that thing...lol

    They probably just got use to using it and never cut themselves, practice makes perfect.
     
  17. EmeraldBlade

    EmeraldBlade Jedi Youngling star 2

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    Buke Luke had no training that we know of.

    Never referred to in the movies.
     
  18. Cryogenic

    Cryogenic Force Ghost star 5

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    Clever question.

    For want of a better interpretation, there seems to be something mystical about a lightsaber that means you won't get hurt, even though your opponent may chop you up good. Also, lightsabers remain the exclusive purview of the Jedi and the Sith, but there are violations: Grievous kills Jedi and collects their lightsabers and boasts about being trained in the Jedi arts by "Count Dooku"; Commander Cody picks up and hands back Obi-Wan's lightsaber after he carelessly drops it riding Boga; Han Solo activates Luke's (really Anakin's) saber and uses it to disembowel a dead Tauntaun; and Artoo carries Luke's saber (concealed to Jabba and the audience) with him until the time is right to release it to Luke according to a pre-formulated escape plan. When Qui-Gon toys with Anakin and says that maybe he killed a Jedi and took his "laser sword" from him, the very idea feels sacrilegious, but this is exactly the scenario with General Grievous two films later. Hmmm.

    The more mundane explanation is that they're Force-adepts and really well-practiced. This is somewhat alluded to in the Younglings scene in AOTC and also in a ROTS web documentary where Lucas talks about the actors needing to be very focused because getting hit (by the practice sticks and physical props) means getting hurt. You might as well ask why a battle droid doesn't shoot itself in the face. The damning thing is that the Jedi are trained (or appear to be trained) almost from birth to handle a weapon. Funny how we see little Jedi children wielding sabers in that Yoda scene as cute but probably feel some level of revulsion when we see, let's say, Afghan children holding rifles and semi-automatics. What's going on is both cases is young people being yoked into adult conflicts and turned into machines; and then them doing that to the next generation and so on. "Shut me down! Machines making machines! How perverse!"

    "They" never cut themselves because "they" have been imprinted with prodigious efficiency since induction. "This weapon is your life!" eerily echoes the following from "Full Metal Jacket": "This is my rifle. There are many like it but this one is mine. My rifle is my best friend. It is my life. I must master it as I must master my life. Without me, my rifle is useless. Without my rifle I am useless. I must fire my rifle true. I must shoot straighter than my enemy, who is trying to kill me. I must shoot him before he shoots me. I will. Before God I swear this creed: my rifle and myself are defenders of my country, we are the masters of my enemy, we are the saviors of my life. So be it, until there is no enemy, but peace. Amen." The will to succeed through violence insanely governs Jedi from one type of harm but exposes them -- and the galaxy -- to all others. And this insanity exists all over Planet Earth. "A long time ago in a galaxy far, far away"? Not really.
     
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