PT How Could Palpatine Justify Killing ALL of the Jedi?

This has never been explained. Chancellor Palpatine accuses certain members of the Jedi council from trying to assassinate him in order to gain control over the clone army. He can justify in front of the senate that he could use force to protect him. How can he logically explain or justify the attack on the Jedi temple, issuing of Order 66, or killing children? What type of plot does he allege that all of those Jedi across the galaxy were trying or would've been able to do to justify their universal destruction? Even if it could make a case for this legally, why would the whole of the senate believe him and agree to the creation of the Empire?

 

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The Pt basically works the same way. Manipulation, corruption....Go and look at WWII to get a better idea.

 

Maybe he didn't need justification about many things because few people knew what is happening. Even Padme has no clue about the Jedi purge and she was a Senator, Senator Organa knew it by accident. I think no one could ever know that the children died there also. After all, the Jedi Order wasn't exactly an open public organization, they were mysterious warriors, presumably turned in traitors (or at least Palpatine presented it in that way). Generally is like the purge of the Knights Templar Order by Phillip the Fair.

 

Palpatine has direct control over the army at this point so he doesn't really have to justify himself to anyone, even the Senate, and as long as his story is at least semi-plausible, most senators likely wouldn't be inclined to try to challenge him for the sake of their own careers. Without the threat of force from an independent police or military, the Senate has no real power to challenge him or to make him answer anything. Any senator questioning the official narrative would quickly find themselves politically isolated and under pressure to be silent. Those who still persisted (like presumably Bail Organa) would be probably be dismissed by many in the mainstream as troublemakers and dissidents and find themselves sidelined in the Senate. This kind of thing can happen even in a free and open democracy. Take the ramping up to the Iraq war in 2003, for example. The majority of mainstream politicians at the time all willingly swallowed an official narrative that clearly had some holes in it from the beginning. I distinctly remember in the weeks before the invasion how obvious it was to me that the administration had zero interest in a peaceful resolution, regardless of the actual facts on the ground. Yet the majority of Congress and the public went along with it, and that was without the threat of assassination or coercion that Palpatine can use to silence his opposition.

 

Don't underestimate the effects that fear and instability can have on a population. Also, as The Clone Wars series showed, there was a significant anti-Jedi movement growing already before ROTS.

 

Palpatine fabricate a galactic war so he could rise to power that left possibly billions or even possibly trillions lifeforms across the galaxy dead. I don't see why its so hard to see that he would see to the destruction of a religious order that was his sworn enemy for thousands of years.

 

There is evil...then there is advanced evil.

Palpatine falls into the latter category.

 

Because it was Thursday?

 

Here is the beauty of the PT! How wonderfully interwoven everything is, especially Palpatines plot!

Palpatine has constructed a plan that leads right back to the Jedi at almost every turn.

Obviously we all know who is really behind the war. However, try to look at it from a senator's POV on the day Palpatine declares the Jedi tried to take over.

Who created and led the Separatists? A supposed ex-Jedi...

Who ordered the Clone Army? A Jedi...

Who "found" the Clone Army? A Jedi...

Who can be blamed for instigating hostilities on Geonosis? The Jedi...

Who stepped up to lead the Clone Army? The Jedi...

Who could be accused of positioning themselves within the power structure of the Clone Army where they could take said army over? The Jedi...

Who actually ended the war? Not the Jedi! Palpatine did!

Every step of Palpatines plan built the Jedi up as the fall guy. He could easily show a Senate, where the majority believe Palpatine is good, and will lead them to peace and security, that the Jedi as an organization were corrupt from top to bottom.

That it was the Jedi's plan all along to play both sides of the war, to create instability and chaos, to justify using the army they ordered and found, and than inserted and integrated themselves into as leaders, so when the time came they could use their army to take over the Republic.

With no Jedi left, there was no one to refute Palpatines claim or evidence. Those in the Senate that thought there might be something fishy silenced themselves out of fear as it was obvious the tide was against them. Palpatine positioned himself as the savior of the Republic, he stopped the traitorous Jedi from taking over, and stopped the vile Separatist leadership who was in league with the Jedi. Palpatine did just as he promised he would, he used his powers to end the war. However, he then took it one step further and declared an Empire as an excuse to further protect the Republic. However we all know that it was all a lie so he could build a Sith Empire.

The Jedi Children would be looked at as collateral damage as part of the war.

 

Yes, a classic medieval intrigue. As if Charles IX had to give any explanations to the court about the St. Bartholomew's Day massacre in Paris or Philip the Fair about the Knight Templar Purge. Unfortunately the viewers always know more than the participants in the events. I wonder if and when the Jedi was redeemed, by the general public I mean. Maybe in the times of the rebellion in ANH.

 

As far as the children are concerned, there was an easy way to explain their deaths by lightsaber.

IMPERIAL SPOKESMAN: Our findings indicate that each the children were killed with a lightsaber. We've investigated this, and we believe the Jedi themselves are responsible for their deaths. Members of this secretive group of religious fanatics obviously believed that, with the law moving in to stop them, that it was better to kill them than let them live and tell their families details of their backward, restrictive existences. We mourn for the needless deaths of the innocent children, and the blame for their tragic fate rests solely upon the dangerous, traitorous cult that stole them from their unknowing, deceived families.

With no outside witnesses, who's going to dispute this?

 

the way things were set up by palpatine, it made the jedi responsible for a lot of things other than an assassination. like mikeximus said, the clone army, seperatists, the clone wars, etc, could all be attributed to the jedi

 

Palpatine had a lot of mind control over senators, I believe at least. Anakin was confused and wanted to save his wife, he saw Mace about to kill Palpatine, and once Anakin helped kill Mace- there was no turning back. He could never make that right so all he could do was turn to the dark side and help eliminate the Jedi.

 

Yup, as Dooku told Obi-Wan in AOTC, "Hundreds of senators are under the influence of a sith lord named Darth Sidious." Would have seemed as far-fetched or outright lies to Kenobi, but Dooku was actually telling the truth! And the fact that pretty much the entire Senate roared in approval as Sidious declared the Empire, shows how much influence and approval he had within the Senate.

I remember reading one novel that stated that Anakin felt the Jedi would never let him back after he helped assist in Mace's murder. Also, he was very desperate to save Padme, and according to Palpatine, only he had that power, not the Jedi. Hence why Anakin felt he had nowhere to go but be Palpatine's apprentice, and was willing to do anything necessary to get that power. Little did he know he was deceived, like everyone else! (Jedi, Senate, etc.)

 

Why do you always bring up Trump and Republicans? Jesus man quit shoving you're political message into everything. Hell I'll vote for Trump now.

 

Well for one, I know your ****posting and just doing this for fun so sorry, I'm not gonna fall for a foolish trick.

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This isn't a trick. It's criticism on your posting when you bring up the same random topic on completely unrelated forums. Hell I'm not even a Republican, I'm a Lib.

 

How can we explain the need for clone troopers to turn on their Jedi generals and commanders simply to destroy them? Certainly this will get the questioning of the senate or the public of the worlds they were serving. Why would every Jedi serving the Republic, especially those far away and removed in space be wiped out like this?

It's much more logical of a story to me to have Order 66 as part of some sort of Separatist secret plot to destroy the Jedi with a weapon which could take over all the minds of the clones and cause them to turn. This could be a last ditch emergency if all of the leadership of the Separatists was wiped out, which it was with the destruction of General Grievous.

Palpatine just has to blame the plot on some secret weapon Count Dooku had and promise to rebuild the order with his new powers as Emperor and instead creates the force of inquisitors instead with Darth Vader at the helm. The Jedi are all presumed to have been wiped out.

 

Palpatine's claim is that there was a larger Jedi rebellion. That would have necessitated an attack on the Jedi's headquarters, during which, tragically, many Younglings died in the crossfire. If only the Jedi could have seen reason and laid down their arms....

 

Alternatively he just so happens to have a bodyguard squad of clones the next time he faces questioning.
"You're talking about the clones? THESE clones, who managed to totally wipe out semi-mythical warrior monks with legendary abilities in battle, almost to the man, yes?"
[Clones brandish weapons meaningfully]
" Any other questions? ... No, I didn't think so."

 

Remember that Palpatine has been laying out the evidence for the Jedi Order's betrayal, when Bail arrived in the Senate. He's had a long time to set this up that he uncovered evidence of a plot to overthrow the Senate and the Chancellor, and he took immediate action after surviving an attempt on himself. As far as the Senate was concerned, he just issued orders to have the Jedi eliminated to all the senior Clonetrooper officers.

 

Can this statement please be canon?

 

He could hide theese actions.

 

Most people don't know about the Jedi. Even the people on the upper level of Coruscant know very little. They probably didn't know children were even there. And even if they did, it doesn't matter. To them, the Jedi are terrorists now. In Afghanistan, when a child runs at you and is wearing a bulky coat, you shoot them. The same applies here. They're not children. They're terrorists.

Palpatine also had control over the army already, the Jedi were just generals.

 

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