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how did padme know they were going to a hangar?

Discussion in 'Archive: Attack of the Clones' started by fosh-bantus88, Mar 26, 2004.

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  1. fosh-bantus88

    fosh-bantus88 Jedi Padawan star 4

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    sorry if this has already been discussed, but how does padme know that the gunship landed at a hangar when she fell off a few miles back?
     
  2. Smuggler-of-Mos-Espa

    Smuggler-of-Mos-Espa Jedi Youngling star 6

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    Um, let me think, because they were chasing a speeder?

    A speeder + Has to be docked = In a hangar.
     
  3. fosh-bantus88

    fosh-bantus88 Jedi Padawan star 4

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    ya, but dooku could have been shot down, or landed elsewhere, or done any other thing imaginable for all padme knew. she didnt see what happened.
     
  4. That_Wascally_Droid

    That_Wascally_Droid Jedi Knight star 6

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    As many times as 'plot hole' get's tossed around willy nilly, this is one time that it actually fits I think.
     
  5. Azanulbizar

    Azanulbizar Jedi Master star 1

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    For some reason when I first saw this scene I thought that Padme must have seen the hangar that the speeder was heading toward, either before she fell off or from the ground. I'm not sure how likely that is, though, considering it did take the gunship a while to reach the hangar after she fell. But isn't it sort of set in a cliff? Perhaps it could be seen from a distance.
     
  6. ISG1

    ISG1 Jedi Youngling

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    I think it's completely plausible that when Padme fell out she'd already seen the hangar and when she came to again she didn't see wreckage so she just thuoght logically and by deductive logic calculated that they must be in that hangar over there.
     
  7. JohnWilliams00

    JohnWilliams00 Jedi Padawan star 4

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    She was clearly using the Force which will be repeated again in ESB when Leia also senses that Luke is calling her for help. Padme has the Force.
     
  8. NeoBaggins

    NeoBaggins Jedi Master star 5

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    LOL. I was going to say the same thing.

    Um, speeders dont need Hangars, smuggler_of_mosespa. Annie's was parked right out on the side of the house. Who it belongs to is another story within itself.

    The two evils: The poster who post an obvious and unexplainable movie goof, and the people who actually try to come up with a reason for it.

    I love this place.
     
  9. G-FETT

    G-FETT Chosen One star 7

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    If your looking for a plot hole, I would suggest this is one of the best examples you could find.

    I love AOTC and for me, it's right up there with ESB, but this one scene-Padme being found by the clone trooper, her "recovery" and then running off to the Hanger, is absolutly awful! It really should have been cut out. I don't think there's any need to see Padme, at that moment, and infact, if it didn't cut back to Padme, you could have built some real tension, about what had actually happened to her (as I believe was origninally intended in the script)

    But as it is, this scene is terribly acted and just doesn't make any sense.

    Awful scene. :eek:
     
  10. NeoBaggins

    NeoBaggins Jedi Master star 5

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    Dont kill me folks, but. If Lucas was a little sharper in the writing department he could have used Padme's absence and return as a dramatic tool for furthering the love story. We shouldnt have saw her again until Annie saw her again. It should have been an actual scene rather than an overhead where clones rush in then Padme is seen going to him. It would have further shown thier love and the wedding would have a bit more drama to it. Just my opinion.

    Right after Yoda says "If Dooku escapes, more systems will rally to his cause" Lasers suddenly start shooting downward above the ship, the first one flies pass Mace. Where, are those shots being fired from??
     
  11. SLAVE2

    SLAVE2 Jedi Knight star 5

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    I don't know why this matters. Couldn't the gunship have some kind of radar that picked up the hanger and they realised Dooku was heading towards it? Perhaps before the Clones arrived at the Arena they saw the hanger as they were heading to it, and guessed Dooku was heading there and told Anakin, Obi-Wan and Padme. Who cares?!
     
  12. --Darth_Dude--

    --Darth_Dude-- Jedi Youngling star 3

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    a movie mistake, that's all...
     
  13. TheWombat

    TheWombat Jedi Padawan star 4

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    A) they had already picked up the hangar on the sensors/scanners/whatevers

    B) a desert on a cloudless day has pretty good visibility. it wouldn't have been very hard to see a hangar miles and miles ahead that Dooku was racing towards


    Don't call it a plot hole when there are perfectly reasonable explanations.
     
  14. G-FETT

    G-FETT Chosen One star 7

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    Actually NeoBaggins, if you read the script, it WAS originally intended that you wouldn't see Padme from the moment she fell out of the Gunship, to when she rush's in, after Dooku has escaped.

    The duel with Dooku and Anakin was supposed to be longer, with dialouge, and Dooku would taunt Anakin about his feelings for Padme, and the fact that Padme had died. In another words, Dooku would try and turn Anakin to the dark side, by using Padme's apparent death. The audiance (those that don't know Padme=Luke and Leia's Mum, obviously ;) ) Would think Padme was dead, and then at the end of the duel it would turn out she was OK.

    This thread was dropped during editing, and the scene with Padme Recovering was shot during pick-up's. In my opinion, that was the worst mistake Lucas made with AOTC. The original idea was FAR superior to what ended up on screen.

    But then, what movie's perfect?! ;)
     
  15. DamonD

    DamonD Manager Emeritus star 6 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    Plot hole *shrugs*
    No such thing as perfection ;)
     
  16. Smuggler-of-Mos-Espa

    Smuggler-of-Mos-Espa Jedi Youngling star 6

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    ya, but dooku could have been shot down, or landed elsewhere, or done any other thing imaginable for all padme knew. she didnt see what happened.

    I seriously doubt that Dooku would just land in some random spot in the middle of the desert and wait for Republic troops to find him. He was trying to get the hell out of Dodge, the gunships following him knew that.
     
  17. Leias_love_slave

    Leias_love_slave Jedi Knight star 5

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    This is very easy to explain. Padme had already read the script and knew that the next scene was going to take place in a hangar.

    8-}
     
  18. rsterling78

    rsterling78 Jedi Knight star 5

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    Maybe there's a "deleted scene" somewhere like this:

    CLONE PILOT: Sir, sensors detecting a hangar in the distance.
     
  19. BaronFel88

    BaronFel88 Jedi Knight star 7

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    Dooku was gonna flee the planet, so I guess she realized there was a hangar her was going to. (Why else would DOoku be going that way?)
     
  20. mixza

    mixza Jedi Padawan star 4

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    Because she had to be there to comfort poor, armless, Ani. :p
     
  21. fosh-bantus88

    fosh-bantus88 Jedi Padawan star 4

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    i dont go for the "they had the hangar on the radar" thing, because, they wernt really in the cockpit, they were just holding onto the rails, on the main loading platform type thing.

    also, i doubt padme looked up and saw where they went. remember, she was lying on the ground partially unconscience, until the clonetrooper aproached her.

    who cares

    point taken
     
  22. PoodleEssence

    PoodleEssence Jedi Youngling star 2

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    I dont see how its a PLOT hole though...

    How does it interupt the plot in any way?? I think we just didnt see or hear some dialogue in the gunship that indicates that they knew where they were going...

    Eh well, what do I know?
     
  23. GrandAdmiral_Frank

    GrandAdmiral_Frank Jedi Padawan star 4

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    A speeder + Has to be docked = In a hangar.

    LOL
     
  24. MasterAero

    MasterAero Jedi Master star 4

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    About the trooper. I always thought he fell out along with Padme. Not that he was stray trooper out on patrol. I haven't watched that scene in a while but I thought for sure he fell out with her, they just didn't show him doing the rolling fall.

    Either way, Padme just has to know they were going to a hangar not where it was. The clonetroopers who were shot when they jumped onto the platform probably relayed their position or had autonomous sensors that relayed their last known position to the command center when they were killed.
     
  25. NeoBaggins

    NeoBaggins Jedi Master star 5

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    Wow. Yet another baffling cut of something that sounds waaay cooler than what was left in. I just dont get it.

    The classic element of diolog during the duel while at the same time enhancing the lovestory to a believabe state, and further showing Annie's struggle with the darkside. What is this guy, the anti-christ of his own films?

    I have said it before and must say it again. You would THINK with a budget like Lucas and the effects team he works with (the best), you wouldnt get such noticable and stupid mistakes. Its an ongoing theme. Dont they screen the movie several times before they release it, dang. Dont they pay a guy just to sit there and look for goofs. Sloppy, just sloppy.

    PS: A clone did fall out with her.
     
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