How did the Jedi justify the treatment of the Kalesh?

As we learn in "Labyrinth of Evil" General Grievous was once a Kalesh warlord. We also learn, that the Kalesh were attacked by the Huk, a war started and the Kalesh were close to winning.

Enter the Republic, which - driven by corporate interests - supports the Huk, forces an end to the war and gives the Kalesh the smackdown, causing a huge recession and economic desaster.

What exactly was the Jedi's role in that and how did they justify their actions?

 

What exactly was the Jedi's role in that and how did they justify their actions?

Don't assume the Kalesh were innocent victims either. They were winning their war when the Jedi intervened and were also taking vengeance by the statements of General Grevious. The Republic may have gained economically but the Jedi were there to bring peace.

Peace isn't fair or 'just'

Like the yuuzhan vong, the Jedi stopped the war when the Republic/Kalesh were on the verge of victory.

It saved Kalesh/Republic lives but a lot have to feel cheated.

 

I wasn't arguing about the Kalesh being innocent, i was arguing how the Jedi could intervene on behalf of warmongers and enforce a peace, that caused Kalesh-children to die in the streets and not feel bad about it, while the Huk profiterred?

 

Perhaps Grievous didn't give us the whole story.

 

(The "Kaleesh," y'all mean.)

That said, as Charlemagne alluded to, it was the Huk appeal to the Jedi for intervention which further demonstrated how inextricably linked the Order had become to the corrupt, bloated Republic bureaucracy...the Jedi stepped in, followed right on schedule by the Intergalactic Banking Clan gaining luscious "new" entreés into the sector, thanks to their "resolution" of the Republic's trade embargo.

Unable to recognize a simple question of moral relativism, they ultimately made matters far worse by blindly, obediently following the Senate's wishes; lockstep, rank-and-file.

Very similar to what occurred millennia earlier with the Ubese decimation, and the Jedi taking what ended up being the wrong side in a conflict, all ethics to the contrary be damned.

 

I wasn't arguing about the Kalesh being innocent, i was arguing how the Jedi could intervene on behalf of warmongers and enforce a peace, that caused Kalesh-children to die in the streets and not feel bad about it, while the Huk profiterred?

Because the Jedi protect life.

Neither the Huk or the Kalesh have the right to wage war according to the Jedi and the Jedi did their best no doubt to put an end to the fighting with a minimum of bloodshed as possible. Guilt or innocence matter nothing to the Jedi in the attempt to preserve life.

They're sort of like medics that way. Hippocratic oath and all that.

 

Bantha-poodo.

The Jedi only started to intervene once the Huk were losing and as far as i remember LoE the war lasted for some time. And as already said, they did a good job at "preserving lifes", if the children of the originally attacked party are dying in the streets.

 

doesn't dooku/sidious also go on about how they twisted the general's mind to suit them? kinda like Qwi Xux but twisting it instead to meet their needs.

Therefore if it was taken from Grievous' mind/mouth, it's probably convoluted

 

the Jedi taking what ended up being the wrong side in a conflict

Exactly. Well, maybe not necesarily the wrong side, but what side is "right" in war? Dooku made it out as if neither side had any right to win over the other -- like most wars, the Huk Wars were so messy both sides were equally right and wrong. The Jedi were forced to abide by what the Republic said was the "right" choice of action and join with the Huks, since it was the Huk system that had more resources the Republic could use.


It always comes down to resources... gotta keep the ol' economy going.


My question is why did the Banking Clan help the Kaleesh if they were spurned by the Republic and had no resources?

 

To get Grievous as an inkasso-agent?


Interesting thought, Jedi_Matt. But how can we know, what really happened?

 

The Jedi can't right all wrongs in the universe.

No offense, had they stayed away, the Huk might have been destroyed utterly.

Had they supported the Kalesh...maybe the Huk would be starving.

 

Yeah, but then there'd be a crazy Huk general tearing a path through the galaxy.

What's the dating on the Huk war, exactly? For some reason I feel like Vergere might have been one of the Jedi involved.

 

You're all missing the point. What kind of name is Huk?

 

Huhk:

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"Huk"...couldn't tell ya.

Better than a crazed Huhk, all things considered.

As for the dating, it couldn't have been more than a decade prior to the Clone Wars, if even that long -- it was a CIS bomb aboard his ship that did him in, with one of Grievous's first actions not long after his 'borgification being the Jedi-and-clone-slaughter in the Geonosis catacombs.

He'd been working as an IGBC enforcer for a brief period after the Kaleesh defeat, with his Separatist-induced "accident" occurring a very short time later. Figure the roundabout of ten years, perhaps.

 

HUK SMASH

 

There's several instances of the Republic/Jedi being very much on the wrong side in a conflict, or just being ineffectual. There were very legitimate grievances with the Old Republic. Offhand, the newest Republic comic issue has one, Jabiim, Galidraan(Dooku apparently tried to stop Fett being sold into slavery after the battle there and was overruled), Tibrin, and just look at how broken the Senate is in TPM with the Naboo snafu.

 

^Yeah, I agree with that one. The Jedi and the Republic were pretty screwed up by that point in time-hell, the only way Valorum could do a damn thing about the TF blockade was to secretly send Jedi to bring an end to it.

As for the treatment of the Kalesh, well, it is Grievous telling the story. As he is Kalee, I don't see him showing his side to be anything but innocent victims.

 

From what I understood, the Huks (who are very Geonosain-like) were just colonising Kaleesh planets and so the Kaleesh attacked. And that was from Greavious's own veiw.

Course, what bugs me now that you brought this up is Grevious made it clear that had already tired to get Republic/Jedi help but none came. If the Huks did start the war, that says really bad things about the Jedi.

 

Wasn't Kaleesh also the name of Sikouzu's people in Farscape?

 

I've heard that before. Some folks made a big deal about that when LOE came out.