Full Series How did the Jedi know Darth Maul's name?

In season 3 when the Jedi initially mistake Savage for Maul, Obi-Wan says: "Darth Maul.. alive?"

How do they know his name? No one told the Jedi in TPM.

I imagine that maybe the Jedi could've found out his name when they interrogated Nute Gunray, but the series doesn't bother to explain this.

 

I agree about the interrogation it is the only logic explanation.

 

IIRC, Ventress managed to free Gunray before he started to reveal anything. It's very likely that whoever wrote the episode didn't bother to wonder if the Jedi knew his name at all. We shouldn't look for any "logical" explanation since there probably isn't one.

 

They mean when the Jedi interrogated Nute Gunray after The Phantom Menace, not during TCW.

 

Ooooh right. I forgot at the end of TPM he was actually taken prisoner or... Whatever. We don't even know for sure.

 

Wasn't there some guy going on about how "After 4 trials in the courts, Nute Gunray is still the Viceroy of the Trade Federation" or something?

Presumably he spilled the beans about a lot of stuff during that. Not about Palps being Sidious though for some reason. Maybe he didn't actually know that. But he did know the name of Darth Maul at least.

 

In TPM novel, doesn't Maul taunt Obi-Wan and Qui-Gon *a lot*? Believe he revealed his name to them.

 

I'm guessing the TF told the jedi who he was after they were captured. And since Darth Maul died anyway, I'm sure the TF divulging his name wasn't that big of a deal to them, especially if Nute Gunray wanted to convince the Jedi that it was this Sith Lord that made them invade Naboo.

 

Nute Gunray (or the other guy) is the only logical explanation.

 

Yea I dont know. Guess its possible they were under orders from Sidious to make Maul the scapegoat like they were forced by him to invade Naboo. Being that Maul was presumed dead , they had only their word to go on, and there was some cover up led by Palpatine within the Republic senate and bureaucracy and the Jedi themselves apparently may of been eager to have swept it under the rug as well and move on as they would later hide the fact their ability to use the force had pretty much vanished.


But it is doubtful they revealed the name of Maul off camera, they wouldve revealed the name of Darth Sidious, there really isnt a reason for them not to at that point as they were finished as they had a total catastrophe that not even Palpatine anticipated he'd lose his apprentice and a boy like Anakin would destroy the Droid army and Padme would have a victory against his grand design by reclaiming her planet. The Jedi should be thorough in their investigation as they were driven to find out the Sith Master and Apprentice behind behind this all after Jinn's meeting and especially after he died fighting one but they never really tell you how Gunray is never imprisoned following the events of TPM, he's next seen Count Dooku. The Republic nor the Jedi apprently never bothered arresting him or outlawing or breaking up the Trade Federations ability to wage war as now they're once more allied to a Jedi like being and it raises no eye brows, the Jedi even routinly dismiss Dooku as a military threat despite he surrounded by the Republic's only war machine makers on an industrial and strategic scale who are now separatists.

Dooku revealed the Sith Lord's intentions to Kenobi in AOTC, and like a decade passed after the TPM so that is a large number of years that one would expect the Neimoidian leaders were kept as prisoners, if they were as the movies dont really imply that they were. If we are to believe the Jedi stopped their search for the Sith Lord Master after the events of the TPM, then the Jedi would have to attempting to damage control the sitiation by pretending the threat isnt real(like they did with Jinn initiially) or go into a state of denial and pretend the whole thing never happened. It would be hard to understand any of that since especially as they could not find the remains of Darth Maul so they had no idea whether he was truly dead or alive. If Yoda of all of people was the first to become aware of the reawakening of the presumed dead Darth Maul, then one would have to suspect he was the only one that somehow suspected he did not die while Sidious and Kenobi accepted that he had died. It still does not make sense that Yoda can feel the presence of Maul many lightyears away but just a few inches away cannot detect Sidious who stands right next to him or explain why is blind to everything else throughout the conflict and long going back 20 years or more as Sidious and Plaqueis were roaming around

 

I'm pretty sure in one of the Forcecasts that Filoni did that he indeed confirmed that it was gathered from Gunray.

 

The Infiltrator was presumably left on Naboo following Maul's downfall, but somehow managed to end up back in Sidious's hands by SOD. So if thats the case it isnt likely it was recovered by Naboo/Republic or Jedi authorities and maybe remote activated to fly back to Sidious's lair. But Sidious did have the bad habit of mentioning his apprentices names over hologram transmissions as he did the same thing when he sent Vader to Mustafar to "help" the Separatist leaders in ROTS.

 

I believe there was an episode guide on Star Wars. com for one of the maul episodes and it said that the Jedi got Maul's name from captured nemoidans after the battle of Naboo- whether this explanation is canon or not remains to be seen.

 

If makes perfect sense and is the simplest possible explanation that the Neimoidians told them the names of Sidious and Maul during interrogations.
Therefore, I conclude that it's also the most likely scenario.

 

Works for me.

 

We fan ficcers have an explanation for that ...

 

FWIW I think a logical explanation for all this is Maul is a very talkative character in TCW. I wouldn't put it past him to taunt Obi Wan and Qui Gon during their great duel, even so far as revealing his Sith title in an act of hubris. We heard very little from him in TPM and that contradicts his characterization in TCW.

 

No, there's no contradiction. TPM is not about Darth Maul. Maul talks when he needs to, and he doesn't need to say a lot in the film. While in TCW, we follow his story and character, so we inherently have more dialogue from him.

 

He (Maul) also changes a ton. So him becoming chatty after he spent years going insane alone in a scrap field is reasonable to me. I agree that Gunray spilled the beans on what he actually knew. He didn't have any special knowledge at that point that hurts Palps.

 

Also, his role changes. When you're Sith Apprentice to Darth Sidious, I wouldn't be very chatty either lol. But in Clone Wars he claims the title of Sith Master, has an apprentice, and a whole Underworld empire. What we saw from him is entirely consistent, he just couldn't really "be himself" around Sidious lol.

 

Don't forget during Star Wars Rebels, when Maul wanted to train Ezra, and I think he sincerely wanted to do that.

Remember in Visions and Voices which was in Season 3, he tells Ezra to forget his friends and memories, which was when Kanan and Sabine were possessed by the Night Sisters.