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How did Vader use force choke?

Discussion in 'Literature' started by Dark_jedi224, Jun 20, 2005.

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  1. Dark_jedi224

    Dark_jedi224 Jedi Youngling star 1

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    In A New Hope how did Darth Vader force choke that Imperial guy(didn't no his name). I thought both his arms were mechanical after the duel with Obi-Wan in ROTS, or did Obi-Wan recut off Anakin's mechanical arm?

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  2. ThrawnRocks

    ThrawnRocks Jedi Master star 6

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    The arm part is just a dramatic effect so that we can know that Vader's choking him. It really is just vader's mind doing it. He doesn't need his hand, as youcan see in Clone wars Chapter 25 :)
     
  3. Tyrantus

    Tyrantus Jedi Youngling star 3

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    The Force Choke is not essentially a hand relied ability. Look how easily he choked that one officer in ESB, where the guy was miles from Vader, and Vader just simply stood there when it happened. Vader just used the raised hand gesture in ANH as means of concentrating the choke, or just to be fancy.
     
  4. TheHappyStormtrooper

    TheHappyStormtrooper Jedi Youngling

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    Are you all sure? I thought i read somewhere you couldnt choke without arms...
     
  5. Colt 45

    Colt 45 Jedi Youngling star 2

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    Well, not by hand at least, unless you are really good at using your feet like a monkey...
     
  6. LijoT

    LijoT Jedi Padawan star 4

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    Nope, hands are not required for force choke :) What you're referring to is probably the scenario with lightning, which is said to require the use of hands.
     
  7. DarthRavenus

    DarthRavenus Jedi Youngling star 1

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    maybe he felt like using his mechanical vice-like hand,like he did on obi Won in ROTS,when he choked him with his robotic hand.
     
  8. Rogue_Follower

    Rogue_Follower Manager Emeritus star 6 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    It is believed (by cetain uneducated Grand Moffs, Slavemasters, and other assorted Imperial vermin) that Lord Vader's impressive ability to choke another being over distances was empowered through the glove he wore on his right hand. Imbued with Sith magic and construced of Mandalorian Iron, the glove of Darth Vader was legendary, if misunderstood.

    ;)
     
  9. Tyrantus

    Tyrantus Jedi Youngling star 3

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    Err...or it could just be he felt like lifting a hand..
     
  10. Darth Guy

    Darth Guy Chosen One star 10

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    The hand is used to focus his mind when he's choking people, just as his hand would simply be used to focus his mind when using lightning... :)
     
  11. ThrawnRocks

    ThrawnRocks Jedi Master star 6

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    I still wish Palpatine had shot Force lightning out of his nose in ROTS :(
     
  12. DarthNidLoc

    DarthNidLoc Jedi Youngling star 3

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    Vaders choke in A New hope is him using his mechanical arm. In star wars mechanical arms are stronger then flesh and blood ones(See the entry to the weapons and technology guide for anakins robotic arm). the other times(twice in Esb, once in ROts, and Once by luke to Jabba's Gamoreans guard in Return of the Jedi) he(or luke) is using a telekinisis(the ablity, to move crush, throw objects with one's mind or in Star wars with the force).
     
  13. neo-dragon

    neo-dragon Jedi Master star 3

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    Use of the force has nothing to do with the physical body (well, unless you're using it to enhance physical abilities like jumping ability or running speed). Vader moving his mechanical hand when he does the force choke is just a gesture. I'm pretty sure he did it to someone without any hand movements in ESB. The guy who took full responsibility for letting the Falcon escape, I think. The only exception is force lightning which requires living flesh and blood hands to project the energy from.
     
  14. SephyCloneNo15

    SephyCloneNo15 Jedi Knight star 5

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    Well, the Force is somewhat associated with your body. If it's generated by the Midichlorions that live in your cells, and you lose several limb's worth of cells, you lose all those midichlorions. As for the requirement of an organic arm to choke, I think it was best explained in Jedi Search. When Luke and Gantoris are trying to recruit Streen by showing him how to attack the Rawks with the Force, Luke uses his hand to demonstrate his focus. After a couple tries, Gantoris realizes that's just part of the demonstration and he doesn't need to actually flick hiswrist or whatever.

    As for why Vader did it, I think it was to emphasize he was choking him with the Force and it wasn't just Admiral Motti or whoever having an allergic reaction to his lunch. He needed to prove it wasn't just an ancient hokey religion.
     
  15. Excellence

    Excellence Jedi Knight star 7

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    Wowsers! I was given to understand Vader was a magician with magical powers, so like, whether his hands were natural or not was of no consequence to a wizard.
     
  16. JayTee_Erricck

    JayTee_Erricck Jedi Knight star 2

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    To TheHappyStormtrooper (& Everyone),

    I think that you may have read the same stuff I did in the Episode III "Visual Dictionary". However, if I'm thinking about the same blurb that you remember, it actually mentions that Vader cannot use Sith Lightning because of the lack of his organic arms. I can't verify which page that's on right now but I'm willing to check on that & do a follow-up post.

    I tend to agree with the general concensus that the "Force Choke" is a power that doesn't require a raised hand & arm. I think I read somewhere (perhaps in an issue of "Star Wars Insider") that raising one's hand during a Force Choke only helps as a gesture toward concentration.

    As someone who is pro-Jedi, pro-Republic, & pro-democracy, I tend to think that the Force Choke is a power more commonly used by the Sith than the Jedi. However, Luke used it in Return of the Jedi (still my favorite S.W. film) and pre-Sith Anakin used it in what I guess will become "Volume II" of the Clone Wars cartoons.

    May the [Good Side of the] Force be with us.
    Jay Tee Erricck

    P.S. If you'd like to check out some photos of Celebration III, please check out the Gallery section of my website, http://www.rebellegionhawaii.com !
     
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