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How does Han get away with walking over Jabba's Tail?

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  1. Daft-Vader

    Daft-Vader Chosen One star 8

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    In ANH, how does Han get away with walking over Jabba's Tail? in all appearances, Jabba is seen as someone who gets angry very easily, and Since his goons are all with him, I would have thought that Jabba would have seen it as a mark of disrepsect, and had him eliminated so that it wouldn't spread what he let Han do? "I saw some smuggler walk over Jabba's Tail - He must have gone soft!"

    I know that the real reason is that the shot was taken before Jabba was really a slug, but still...

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  2. TwiLekJedi

    TwiLekJedi Pretty Ex-Mod star 10 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    Doesn't he immediately talk about "plus a little extra"? I think that soothes a Hutt quite a bit.


    Damn, I haven't seen the movies in a while...
     
  3. Rogue...Jedi

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    Yeah, the plus a little extra probably helps, plus Jabba seems to be in a good mood overall, perhaps granting him a little more leeway, though I'm sure he was annoyed by it.
     
  4. TwiLekJedi

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    they did make him more annoyed in the DVD, at least in contrast to the SE
     
  5. DarthLassic007

    DarthLassic007 Jedi Master star 6

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    Just the relationship they had. Jabba respected Han.
     
  6. Kyle Katarn

    Kyle Katarn Force Ghost star 6

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    Didn't Jabba say that Han was his "best"? Jabba probably realized that Han stepping on his tail came with employing him in the first place. When you have someone who is the best at smuggling, you're able to overlook a bit of disrespect from them as long as they get the job done.
     
  7. Katana_Geldar

    Katana_Geldar Jedi Grand Master star 8

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    Yeah, that's why you send bounty hunter's after him.

    Respect!
     
  8. ILuvJarJar

    ILuvJarJar Jedi Grand Master star 6

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    He calmed down after Han offered extra and Jabba likes money so he forgot about his tail.
     
  9. Daft-Vader

    Daft-Vader Chosen One star 8

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    He didn't calm down after Han was thawed from Carbonite, and offered to pay Jabba Triple

    It probably is though that Jabba did respect Han a bit, because he was one of the best smugglers, al;though I bet the bounty he placed on Han was more then the lost spice.

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  10. ILuvJarJar

    ILuvJarJar Jedi Grand Master star 6

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    At the moment money calmed him down because all Han did was step on his tail. When he offered to pay Jabba triple, Han was already in a deep load of ****.
     
  11. TwiLekJedi

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    yeah, when he was offered triple in RotJ he had been keeping Han as a wall decoration - I'd say that's quite a different mood from a little indecency during "friendly" negotiations ;)
     
  12. Kyle Katarn

    Kyle Katarn Force Ghost star 6

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    Then there's the fact that Han went at least a year or two (maybe longer) without paying off Jabba in the first place. Something like that is just asking for trouble - as well as suspension of any and all tail-stepping-on privlidges.
     
  13. obi-rob-kenobi4

    obi-rob-kenobi4 Jedi Master star 4

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    1.) It makes Han look like more of a badass and fearless. When the Mob boss came to intimidate him he shrugged it right off and flexed his muscles right back before reassuring him that he would get his money.

    2.) Physical contact between CGI characters and actors is ALWAYS good.

    3.) Jabba probably didn't even feel it that much to realy mind because he has a very thick hide, like the shark from Jaws for example, when sheriff brody shot the shark with a 357. magnum 6 times it didn't get through the skin. Im shore in a GFFA Hutts can be like that.

    4.) It shows they have more of a history together and that they don't mind each other that much, a kind of "intimacy". After all, if it were anyone else he could just kill them but Han is getting a warning, probably because hes been a good muscle for jabba in the past witch also adds more to the han arc of how he starts out as a selfish character because jabba is a mob boss type of character and han has had no problem working for him.


    These are some of the nice things that people can get out of that scene, but some people only like to read negativity into it.[face_coffee]
     
  14. Jedi_Shades

    Jedi_Shades Jedi Youngling

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    At the time, Jabba still expected Han to be profitable. If Han was truly the best, then he must have been bringing in quite a bit of money for the Hutt, and Hutt's love money. However, this begs that question of why Jabba would put the bounty on Han in the first place; was it just to get his attention, or did he really want Han eliminated? Greedo certainly interpreted it as "kill Han." If Jabba really wanted Han dead, why didn't he order his men to simply kill Solo when he arrived at the docking bay? If he didn't want him dead, why did he put a bounty on him? Hutts hold grudges, and seem incapable of placing anything before their own interests, so I think it is safe to assume Jabba didn't overlook Han walking on his tail out of the goodness of his heart. So, I think either Jabba expected to make money off of Han, and so saw it as an investment, or Jabba was scared of Han, and afraid to be in the area if Han was free, armed, and hostile, despite his bodyguards. Either that, or in Hutt culture stepping on someone's tail isn't at all offensive or improper...but I think that isn't likely.

    Of course, maybe it was just because Han needed to survive because he had already appeared in the rest of the movie and two more besides, and killing him at the beginning of ANH would introduce a serious continuity problem.
     
  15. NeoBaggins

    NeoBaggins Jedi Master star 5

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    He steps on Jabba's tale for the same reason other "alterations" are questioned; Lucas choosing gags over consistancy. It just goes in line with the more wacky direction he was taking the characters. When ROTJ came out, Jabba was scary and you could not bargain with him. He was evil and viol. There is no logical way the same Jabba would allow Solo to step on him on top of costing him money. The Jabba portrayed in ROTJ would have had him desentigrated on the spot. No questions. Now hes getting his tale stepped on and spitting frog heads into kongs as comedy relief. He's basically Garfield the cat in slug form.
     
  16. Arawn_Fenn

    Arawn_Fenn Chosen One star 7

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    Because he's just that cool. He's like Fonzie.
     
  17. TwiLekJedi

    TwiLekJedi Pretty Ex-Mod star 10 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    No, he steps on his tail because Ford was walking behind the fat Irish bloke who played Jabba the Furry Human in 76 and Jabba the Hutt's tail got in the way in 96.
    You're right if you apply it to Jabba's specific reaction (especially the SE one), though.
     
  18. Darth_Laudrup

    Darth_Laudrup Jedi Master star 4

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    and Han also gets away because this scene is a part of Lucas' vision to fill the Star Wars Saga with much more slapstick comedy.
     
  19. Grand_Moff_Jawa

    Grand_Moff_Jawa Jedi Grand Master star 5

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    I think the real question is why this entire scene was put back to begin with.

    We know that Han is in trouble with someone called Jabba, isn't that enough for now?

    I liked Jabba being concealed until ROTJ. This new scene gives away Jabba's appearance and allows the Falcon to be seen earlier too, ruining Luke's reaction to it.

    Bad idea to put this back.
     
  20. Daft-Vader

    Daft-Vader Chosen One star 8

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    I have to say I agree with you. Jabba has never looked right, in my opinion, even in the DVD version,and surely Boba Fett has better things to do then just hang around Jabba when he's asking for money...? As seen in RotJ and TCW, Jabba gets abgry very easily, and personally would have had Han shot on sight, even if he was the best - as the RotJ novel says, the money wasn't really important, Jabba had more then he could count, I believe, so it was more of a image problem, you don't let smugglers dump your spice and not pay.

     
  21. goraq

    goraq Jedi Youngling star 4

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    Did Jabba even felt Han steping on him?

    I mean he was soo big,and his skin doesent look too soft.
     
  22. BarkingFrog

    BarkingFrog Jedi Master star 2

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    He feels it. In the '97 version, he lets out a really awful squeal and his awful CGI model makes an awful facial expression. They toned it down in the DVD version, but it's still there.

    Also, I dislike this scene being put in the movie. Jabba should have been kept a mystery until ROTJ.
     
  23. DARTH-SMELLY-FEET

    DARTH-SMELLY-FEET Jedi Youngling star 3

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    Because he's bad ass enough to.
     
  24. obi-arin-kenobi

    obi-arin-kenobi Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    I actually like this scene alot. Feels like one left out due to time and money contraint. Completes Han more as a character. Lets the audience know that this man is in danger. It's as if Jabba is the numero uno drug dealer in the galaxy and Han is second in command. Brought Jabba alot of money in the past, so he's able to instigate a tad. This scene brings that "last straw" feeling to the film. The walking over the tail is great as well, as jabba is always on his, and he decides to walk all over jabba's. They just need to fix up the jabba a bit.
     
  25. GrandAdmiral_Frank

    GrandAdmiral_Frank Jedi Padawan star 4

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    Han gets away with it because when that scene was being put together Han ended up walking around the human actor portraying Jabba so they had him walk on the tail. It's a kid film so we don't need to have any realism. If it was The Godfather you wouldn't see someone stepping on Marlon Brando's foot but in this film it's okay because it's a kid film.

    I must say I totally agree with the in-universe answers posted up here.
     
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