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How long was Luke trained by Yoda?

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  1. BLUE-HARVEST

    BLUE-HARVEST Jedi Youngling

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    If Luke was being trained by Yoda on Dagobah at the same time that Han and Leia and the gang were running from the Imperials in the asteroid field and having a sleepover at Cloud City, then that means that Luke was only formally trained as a Jedi for a few days at most (even counting his time with Obi-Wan). Am I missing something, or is Luke just a student of the School of Hard Knocks?
     
  2. DARTH_CORLEONE

    DARTH_CORLEONE Jedi Padawan star 4

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    About six hours.
     
  3. Project_Starscream

    Project_Starscream Jedi Grand Master star 2

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    The training was for months (& during that time, the Falcon was heading to Bespin at its normal speed since the Hyperdrive didn't work).
     
  4. Errant_Venture

    Errant_Venture Manager Emeritus star 6 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    The Falcon had a backup hyperdrive which wasn't nearly as fast as the primary. I believe Skywalker only trained with Yoda for a few weeks before rushing off to face Vader. That is of course EU and you're free to agree/disagree with that.

    But no matter how long Skywalker was with Yoda, he was mainly trained for one thing. Combat.
     
  5. ___Sithspawn___

    ___Sithspawn___ Jedi Youngling star 3

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    I'm going to go with a day or two.
     
  6. 4LOM

    4LOM Jedi Youngling star 3

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    If the Falcon had a backup hyperdrive, why didn't they use it to escape the Imperials? They had two chances to do so, once leaving Hoth and another time leaving the asteroid field. But Han doesn't even seem to consider that an option, he just runs back to fix the hyperdrive.

    My impression is that once you enter hyperspace, you can't be followed or traced, unless someone plants a homing beacon on the ship being tracked (like in ANH). This is also based on the fact that Vader can't follow Leia and company when they escape at the end of ESB. So it wouldn't matter if your hyperdrive was fast or slow, you could just escape to hyperspace.

    So is the backup hyperdrive theory not true?
     
  7. BescinPrix

    BescinPrix Jedi Youngling star 1

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    I never heard anything about a back-up HD.

    I thought they flew to Bespin on normal sub-light speed. They chose bespin because it was close enough to where they were.

    However, I never thought it was 6 months. I thought more about a handful of days to a week.

    I just remembered than Han did mention exactly how far away Bespin is; though I don't remember the value, and it was in parsecs, so it makes no difference. Perhaps someone out there with better memory than me can give us the distance, and someone with more knowledge of parsecs and the time it takes to travel them can give us a better time estimate...
     
  8. HandofSkywalker86

    HandofSkywalker86 Jedi Master star 4

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    I think I heard somewhere that he was with Yoda for 3/4 months. Which makes his feats even more astonishing.

    Hand
     
  9. gpcovenant

    gpcovenant Jedi Youngling

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    This always really bugged me too... if Luke did learn in days or even a few months, what most had to start learning as children into adulthood, he would have to by as powerful or more powerful naturally then the emperor or yoda put together in my mind.
     
  10. HandofSkywalker86

    HandofSkywalker86 Jedi Master star 4

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    It does seem that Luke inherited an innate ability to use the force as well as a seemingly natural predispotion towards combat. I think Yoda only touched on those skills that help during combat and not so much on the more passive abilities of the OJO.

    Hand
     
  11. J2183

    J2183 Jedi Youngling star 1

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    Maybe Ben trained him after the end of Empire in his ghost form to make him what he was in Jedi?

     
  12. b-wingmasterburnz

    b-wingmasterburnz Jedi Master star 3

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    OK, well, I think bringing the technical length of a parsec into play is a bad idea. Because, in our technical terms, wouldn't it take, like, a few dozen years to travel a parsec on sublight engines? Going on our universe's definitions, I mean. I never much liked that. If this 'backup hyperdrive' means the Falcon would be able to go long-distances through space without actually entering the hyperspace dimension, just maybe half-'light speed', then I'm for that idea.
     
  13. Malikail

    Malikail Jedi Padawan star 4

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    The training was for months (& during that time, the Falcon was heading to Bespin at its normal speed since the Hyperdrive didn't work).

    no way, it was a matter of days or weeks.

    if it were a matter of months then it must have taken a very very very long time for the rebels to reach their meeting point post hoth.

    it simply doesn't make sense.

    i've heard lucas quoted as saying the events of the movies of the OT take place in the 10 day to 2 weeks time span.

    i've always accepted that to be the case, though having not seen the source of the quote i'd not stake an argument on it.
     
  14. neo-dragon

    neo-dragon Jedi Master star 3

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    I'm surprised that no one has brought this up, but what about the time dilation effect? The theory of relativity states that as one approaches the speed of light (without actually reaching it) time slows down. I can't recall the exact formula used to calculate it, but for example, if the Falcon was travelling at really high sublight speeds (like say, 90% of the speed of light), Han and the others aboard the Falcon may have only experienced a few days while Luke and the rest of the outside universe may have experienced weeks or months.
     
  15. Darth_Falcon

    Darth_Falcon Jedi Grand Master star 5

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    That's Planent of the Apes, not SW. Entire differen't level of physics ;)


    Yoda trains Luke for a month or so. There are plenty of EU sources that verify this. It's hard to convey timing in movies regardless of what universe you are in.
     
  16. Snaggleass

    Snaggleass Jedi Youngling star 2

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    This is space , man. The concept of time is totlly different than us Earthlings. They are ALL aliens. NOBODY is from Earth in Star Wars land.
     
  17. Malikail

    Malikail Jedi Padawan star 4

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    Yoda trains Luke for a month or so. There are plenty of EU sources that verify this. It's hard to convey timing in movies regardless of what universe you are in.


    ya know i agree with your assesment of time.

    however the eu is horrid, inconsistant, and should be left out of any intelligent disscussion of starwars
     
  18. Cyber_Jedi

    Cyber_Jedi Jedi Youngling

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    i thought that in a trailer or a commercial once they focused on luke, showing a image of obi then words came up saying "he trained him to fight" then showing a image of yoda and saying " he trained him to control the force".
    sumthing along those lines so im assuming that he had alot more experience training and that in between ANH and ESB seeing as though he did keep the light saber handy.
     
  19. PhantomJawa

    PhantomJawa Jedi Youngling star 1

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    as long as you want him to have been?

    let's face it, it could be a day or two, it could have been weeks or months. It's pretty much left up to the viewers discretion.
     
  20. DS615

    DS615 Jedi Padawan star 4

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    Weeks or months makes the most sense. The falcon would have to move at SL speed, and at SL speed it would take months to get anywhere at all.

    And Han never mentiones the distance to Bespin except to say that it's "pretty far".

    And parsecs are a RL measure, so it would matter if he'd said it.

    Thanks. I'm done. ;)


     
  21. neo-dragon

    neo-dragon Jedi Master star 3

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    1 parsec = 3.26 lightyears, so if Bespin was even 1 parsec away it would years to get there at sublight speed.

    Anyway, how come every one is ignoring by time dilation idea? (It's a bit farther up on the page) Doesn't it make sense? I think it's cool that this mystery can be explained by real-life science.
     
  22. General-Jawa007

    General-Jawa007 Jedi Youngling

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    About six hours.

    i thought it was longer than that.
     
  23. Project_Starscream

    Project_Starscream Jedi Grand Master star 2

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    I think he was joking about that.
     
  24. darth_rents

    darth_rents Jedi Youngling

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    Luke got a little training from Obi-Wan and between ANH and ESB there had to have been times where he was able to work his skills.
    but i see the question of time..
     
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