How many Royal Gaurdsmen would it take to kill a jedi?

If you put you average jedi in an arena with some of the Emperors royal gaurd how many Royal gaurds do you think it would take to kill the jedi.

 

And this is important, because..?

 

because I wanna get an idea of how skilled the gaurdsmen are.

 

Well, there was that one time where Luke and a young, inexperienced Jedi took on two guardsmen - Luke took out his, no problem, but the younger Jedi was nearly killed. Luke bailed him out, so the guardsman barely escaped with his life - but it was close. I think a few guardsmen could kill a Jedi Knight, though a Master would be a different story.
See the "Force-Using Imperials" thread for some good info.

 

It would depend on how skilled the Jedi was too. or if the Jedi was sleeping or sick or well there are too many things in the equation. That being said the Guardsmen where the best the empire had to offer. But I am sure they where not too good. I am sure Vader could have made short work of them if they tried a grab for power or something.

 

Counterpoint>

Vader was hands down the greatest warrior in the galaxy. He slew darn near all the Jedi Masters of the Old Republic (I assume the padawans and weaker knights were the province of the Emperor's other folk) including the Dark Woman and Obi Wan Kenobi.

He also slew Darth Maul in issue 9#.

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My guess is that the Imperial Royal Gaurd on average was inferior to the Jedi knights and masters but equal to a padawan like Obi Wan Kenobi in TPM from what we've seen of Kir Kanos.

In effect very dangerous.

Brakiss slew some Royal gaurd fairly easily though he had surprise, the fact they weren't "true royal gaurd", and it should be noted....he ended up dying at one of their hands as well.

 

Need I write a long composition? Alright, I'll try, but I could be wrong.

Elite stormtroopers were selected from the ranks of the Imperial Army. These fighters were given extensive combat training, and were so skilled that their weapon of choice was not a blaster, but a vibro-pike. These men dressed in crimson robes and originally were the emperor's personal guard.
Some elite guardsmen were tested for force sensitivity - if they passed, and survived intense training on the desert world of Yinchorr, they were made members of Palpatine's most elite royal bodyguard group - all others were made "second stringers", so to speak. They stayed with him at all times, and their training in the rudiments of Force use enabled them to serve their emperor better; they had some healing capabilities, just in case they had to help their master should he be wounded, and also knew how to submit part of their minds to the force for enhanced fighting abilities. They were called the Sovergn Royal Guards.
The most powerful Sovergn Royal Guards were made Dark Jedi adepts. When I say "Most Powerful" I mean most ruthless, not strongest with the Force. Whereas the Sovergn Guard were forced to fight ti the death with one of their compatriots to become the elites, these were made to do all the acts that a Sith apprentice had to - perform secretive missions, and give in to their own hate as much as possible. They were never allowed to become as powerful as Vader or Palpatine, of course, but they were still very much feared throughout Imperial Ranks.
So remember; it doesn't just matter how strong the Jedi you're talking about is, but also how strong the guardsman.

 

The question here is more one of luck. In every fight, luck is going to play a crucial role. Take two Jedi, both of whom are equals in everyway. Odds on either winning would be equal. Neither one would have an advantage over the other, so it would come down to who was the luckiest as to who the victor would be.

However, take two Jedi, one of whom has ten years more training and experience than the other. The extra training and experince would imporve the odds of the senior Jedi, and make it more likely that they would win. Yet if the more junior Jedi is luckier, they could come out the victor.

That said, theoritically(spelling please) speaking it would only take one Royal Guardsman to defeat a Jedi in combat. True, the odds of victory are stacked against them. But with a little luck, they could still win.

 

He also slew Darth Maul in issue 9#.


Oh-ho, he did win, good! Sitara will be so disappointed.

 

I think a Jedi IS the ultimate soldier. In the Phantom Menace, every time the Jedi were on screen, things seemed to go their way- even against the destroyer droids, they managed to escape unharmed. Against Darth Maul, Qui-Gon died and Obi-Win split him in half. Jedi seem to be a nexus for change, and only exceptionally skilled individuals have a prayer against them.

In some instances so-called tough people fail against a Jedi through bad writing, i.e. Luke's humiliation of Boba Fett on Jaba's sail barge. They made Fett out to be the most dangerous man in the galaxy and he gets taken out by the last Jedi and a blind Han Solo. Not so lucky, eh Piere? I think Attack of the Clones will render that sequence obsolete.

I think for the most part, the average soldier isn't going to stand a chance against a Jedi, and nor should they. One of Palpy's Royal Guard, hard to say, I remember their stats from the Imperial Source Book, and they were tough, but not so much that I feel a Jedi couldn't take one or even a few of them without much problem. The only problem here is we have never seen them used, so it's hard to declare one way or the other.

 

A royal guard certainly had no trouble killing a Dark Lord of the Sith (Crimson Empire)

 

He wasn't much of a Dark Lord.She gave him meaer training at best.

 

I never read "Crimson Empire", any good?

 

Jax was a nobody he just took the name, because if he was he would have beaten Kanos.

I really don't like the way they had Kanos buddying it up with some of those rebels, if he was so loyal to the Emperor he wouldn't just be going after those who killed the Emperor he would also go after those who wanted the Emperor dead like most of the people in the New Republic. I just don't see any former Royal Guard getting close to an enemy even associating with the enemy. So in my eyes, Kanos is a traitor just like the rest of them. Even if it was a momentary lapse of judgement. I don't think the Emperor would have taken that lightly, if he was still alive of course.

I think Crimson Empire is complete crap the only issue I liked, was the last one #6 when Jax and Kanos fight. Other than that it was a waste of my reading time.

 

"Jax was a nobody he just took the name, because if he was he would have beaten Kanos. "


Well, he had definately started his training as a Dark Lord of the Sith. This is official. As to how far he got in his training...

 

-coughLadyLumiyacoughcough-

My, I must be coming down with something. Oh, yeah, I too wonder where Jax got his Sith training. Doo doo doo doo doo... doo doo doo...

 

Lumiya trained Jax. Yeah I know he was taught Sith teachings but either he was a very poor student or his teacher didn't know how to teach or she herself wasn't that good either. But didn't Blackhole a former Jedi train Jax before he meet up with Lumiya. If that's the case, this tells me Jax wasn't very bright and he's a poor learner.

He could have been taught Sith teachings but that still doesn't make him a Dark Lord. So he just took the title.

 

Wait, suddenly realized something. I've got a Royal Guardsmen cd right in front of me. Now, according to this there were only about six of em. And their not really warrios, their muscians. So they'd need to bring an army with em just to kill one Jedi.





















And yes, I'm joking. The Royal Guardsmen was a British band from the 60s at the very least. They released, among other songs, Snoopy vs. the Red Baron and Snoopy's Christmas. They've got nothing to do with Star Wars.

 

LOL!!!

 

So how many royal guardsmen does it take to screw in a lightbulb, .

 

Oh come ON people.....everyone knows the royal guards are unstoppable!!

Actually for anyone who has the book Action Figure Archive, there is an awesome picture from a ROTJ deleted scene where a royal guard is using his force pike to "choke" an Imperial officer. Awesome rare photo there, for any royal guard fans like myself

 

"The question here is more one of luck. In every fight, luck is going to play a crucial role. Take two Jedi, both of whom are equals in everyway. Odds on either winning would be equal. Neither one would have an advantage over the other, so it would come down to who was the luckiest as to who the victor would be."



in my experience there is no such thing as luck..


boo boo boo me... sorry i couldnt resist...






back to the point... i think that luke could easily take down five to ten guardsmen if he had his lightsabre. force pike aint gonna do much versus a lightsabre and i doubt the guards could do force lightening.

 

That would depend on what the force pike is covered with. Cortis ore and the force pike would be tough to deal with for a Jedi.

Also, despite Obi-Wans comment, there is such a thing as luck. I know you were joking, but thinking on it brings up something that Obi-Wan would have either choosen to leave unsaid or ignore. If you take two people who are equal in every way in a fight and pit them together, neither one having any kind of advantage over the other, it's going to be the one for whom luck is on their side that wins. However, if you take two people at different skill levels, a beginner vs. a advanced person, the advanced person is going to be more likely to win because they have far more training.

And one final thing, an edit of my earlier explanation on my joke. I had always been led to believe that the Royal Guardsmen were a British group who appeared during the British Invasion. However, despite sounding like this should be the case, it actually turns out they they originated in Florida. Go figure.

 

Depends on how much cortosis ore weighs and weather it would be worth it to cover a force pike with. As I recall, the stuff was pretty brittle or fibrous, which is why they had trouble turning it into armor for the Jennasari that Corran and Luke faced.

 

Training - and experience - is important, but not a sure thing.

I myself love fencing. I've been lucky and beaten people who should have taken me out, and have had people beat me who had far less training.

Just goes to show...