How Much Knowledge Has Been Lost?

how much knowlege has been lost from the KOTOR jedi to the present jedi?

 

I would imagine that Luke and co. recovered a LOT of information from the ruins of the great library on Ossus and from other sources, so I wouldn't be surprised if a great deal of knowledge has made it to the present day Jedi. Luke at the very least had a knowledge of Exar Kun and the Sith War to begin with, so him finding knowledge of the Mandalorian Wars and Jedi Civil War wouldn't surprise me.

 

The greater loss seems to be information from the post-Ruusan Jedi. The Temple on Coruscant was sacked and raided, information on the CW and the rise of the Sith and Empire erased, the Jedi painted as rebels and untrustworthy throughout history...the most accessible information on Jedi, for Luke at least, seems to be the ancient holocrons he's found.

 

Well, we know at least the knowledge of how to build a ship like the Virago was lost, at least long enough so that 4000 years later it would still be a "new" design

 

well it seem that the KOTOR 1 and 2 jedi seemed to know alot more force powers.

 

::cringe:: "Powers." Ick.

Anyway, I'm not so sure about that statement. Luke's Jedi can do some pretty amazing things, especially when they get into a groove.

 

That could be because the designers wanted cooler gameplay though, and not necessarly a reflection on the actual abilites of the Jedi of that era.

 

Unfortunatly, thats a lot of knolwedge, the Jedi map room for one.

 

I like to think that the recorded history of Star Wars gets a tad exagerrated over thousands of years. We see the extent of Luke's powers (Which are mighty, I may add) clearly because it is from an era where a lot of the information is recorded. Back in the KoTOR times....we have people like Nihilus eating worlds. He probably took some ships, BDZed some planets, and was written down in "Star Wars History" as having this enormous sith power.

It's my little way of reconciling the differences.

Carnage

 

Either that or there are lost 'magics' aka techniques related to the force - if one can pull a ship out of a swamp and fire lightning, re-animate life, etc, there is no reason one cant consume the living force out of a person or something.

 

I?m not really sure.

In the knights of the old republic era weird and wonderful powers seem to be common place, jedi masters seem to be able to delve very far into the future. Also becoming a force spirit after death seems almost common practice (Padawans can even achieve the feat, think Sunriders Husband).

The 5 Most Major Shows of Power

1) Darth Nihilus stripping the planet Katarr of life.
1) The Thought Bomb on Ruusan
1) Exar Kuns Stasis field on well over 50 people (including jedi)
4) Traya been able to predict the death of Jango Fett (which was thousands of years in the future)
5) Sunrider cutting Ulic off from the force


The prequal era Jedi are very conservative, they use basic force powers, they do appear to be far more skilled in the art of the lightsaber, however they also appear to lost the knowledge of how to become a force spirit. Their ability to see in to the future is also clouded by the darkside, it could well be the case that the darkside was affecting their ability to use the force at all (as Roan Shryne suggested in Dark Lord)

The 5 Most Major Shows of Power

1) Anakins destructive force scream on Tythe which brought a heavily fortified building down
2) Yoda smashing two separatist landing craft into one another
3) Mace Windu single handedly laying waste to a droid army
4) Palpatine throwing senate pods around like they where Frisbees
5) Anakin throwing the huge jedi statue like it was a dart

The New Jedi Order, have lots of weird & wonderful powers, but I suspect there not as handy with the lightsaber then previous generations.

1) Flow-walking
2) Jacen becoming an illuminated being
3) Luke was able to resist the combined Force power of the Colony and triumph.
4) Luke used the Force to rebuild Darth Vader's old fortress on Coruscant and made it invisible
5) Ganners last stand

 

I dont agree that they are special - although force spirits were more common because that technique had not been lost (and frankly I dont agree with how it was made into somethign special, I always thought all force sensetives should become like that) - for starters, remember how Palpatine called down a force storm onboard the Eclipse? Was that not equal to a thought bomb or the consuming of a planet's life force? All three required carefull meditation by powerfull masters.

The Jedi and Sith probably dont use it as much later because:

a). its lost knolwedge

b). they consider lightsaber, and 'normal' force powers development paramount in a galaxy that isnt being torn apart

c). they actually do know some powers like life drain but it is never seen - e.g. Kyle Katarn can heal himsefl through meditiation even though it isnt in the triolgies

There may even have been laws passed within the order forbidding some powers for some reason.