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How Old Are Padawans Usually When Taken From their Parents?

Discussion in 'Archive: The Phantom Menace' started by LottDodd, Dec 6, 2004.

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  1. LottDodd

    LottDodd Jedi Master star 4

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    Anakin at age 9 is too Old to Begin the Training.

    The Padawans of the Bear Clan in AOTC are about 4 years old.

    How Old Are Children When they Are Taken from their Parents Assuming they Live in or around the Core Worlds.

    Are they Identified in the Womb and taken immediatly upon birth?

    Do they spend the First Year or so with their birth parents for health reasons? (breast feeding and so forth or the alien equivilent of thus)Maybe Longer?

    What is the Usual Cut off time for a Padawan to be Identified 5,6,7?
     
  2. The_Nameless_One

    The_Nameless_One Jedi Padawan star 4

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    About the age when they learn to tell the difference between capital and small letters [face_thinking]




    :p
     
  3. Anakenobi

    Anakenobi Jedi Youngling star 1

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    I guess before they reach the age of 7. Because after that age, kids start thinking in a more sophisticated way (abstract thinking, etc.).

    Before 7, kids will believe anything... and they live in those wonder years where their parents are like gods and stuff.

    After 7, they see life in a more real way.

    But then again, that happens with normal kids...don't know about them jedi-kids!
     
  4. DarthyMarkyMark

    DarthyMarkyMark Jedi Padawan star 4

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    When they're very, very young - I guess when they're only one or two years old? The key thing is that they have to be taken before they develop an emotional attachment with their parents - they are then trained by the Jedi to love things compassionately, but not become attached to them.
     
  5. Anakenobi

    Anakenobi Jedi Youngling star 1

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    ^^^^ No wonder the Jedi miss-managed the Republic!

    They had their hands full with all those terrible infants! ;)

     
  6. Smuggler-of-Mos-Espa

    Smuggler-of-Mos-Espa Jedi Youngling star 6

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    All babies born in Republic-affiliated planets were tested upon birth for medichlorians. If they had them, they were taken from their parents and immediately taken to Coruscant (where the main training facilities are).

    That's the way 99.5% of all of these "transactions" work with little exception.
     
  7. Anakenobi

    Anakenobi Jedi Youngling star 1

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    So, they didn't give that "test" to Luke, eh?

    I wonder what they were growing in Tatooin with all those moister vaporators....

     
  8. Lando_Plenty

    Lando_Plenty Jedi Youngling star 2

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    I wonder if the Jedi would still take the children from the parents even if the parents refused?
     
  9. Anakenobi

    Anakenobi Jedi Youngling star 1

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    They had to let them go... or else they could turn into the Dark Side of the Force!

    They could scare them into giving their kids up, see?

    ;)

     
  10. Smuggler-of-Mos-Espa

    Smuggler-of-Mos-Espa Jedi Youngling star 6

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    Anakenobi, speaking without throwing spoilers into this, Luke was born right in the middle of a Galactic Civil War. The Republic was in ruins and the Empire was in power. Being the heir of a Jedi, Luke was destined to use his power eventually anyway, as planned by Obi-Wan.

    After the Republic was destroyed, the Empire had no need to continue the process of training Jedi, nor training Sith.

    I wonder if the Jedi would still take the children from the parents even if the parents refused?

    To answer your question on a serious note, the parents were obligated by law to give up their children if they were inside the Republic. Sure, none of them liked it, but it was necessary to fulfill the Jedi Code. They had to rid themselves from every part of their original family except their name.

    As a result of not doing this, the children would become attached to the parents. Anakin is a perfect example of this.
     
  11. Anakenobi

    Anakenobi Jedi Youngling star 1

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    Yep, that sounds true.

     
  12. Chaotic_Serenity

    Chaotic_Serenity Jedi Padawan star 4

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    I find that horrifying, to be honest. If the child has no choice, then the parents should at least have one. I think that's quite frankly a sign of the corruption in the government and Jedi Order. Nobody has the right to force somebody to give up a child. NOBODY. And not to mention the damage to the child...what kid really knows what they want to be when they group up? This was part of the problem with Anakin, IMO. He had no idea what being a Jedi really entailed, yet still went head first into it.

    If I recall correctly, in TPM novel, it mentions that the cutoff age was around one year. Or, at least, most children that were recognized and accepted before that age.
     
  13. Lando_Plenty

    Lando_Plenty Jedi Youngling star 2

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    Thanks for the info, Smuggler.

    Nobody has the right to force somebody to give up a child.
    This is a problem I've had with the Jedi. Sure, what they're doing is for the greater good of the Galaxy, but making it law to have force-sensitives taken from their parents is going too far. However, if they didn't make it law, I'm sure next to nobody would voluntarily give up their child never to see them again. It's tough either way.

    Anyway, about parents temporarily keeping the child for health reasons...I don't remember the TPM novel touching upon this...but I assume in the GFFA they have advanced enough technology to get around the health issue. The novel did say that children were identitified and handed over within six months of being born, and that there were no exceptions.
     
  14. Moleman1138

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    I would have to say a little while after birth. They don't starting training until age four. Maybe they're just watched over by the Jedi until then.
     
  15. Ree

    Ree Jedi Master star 5

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    You can read the Jedi Apprentice series by Jude Watson to find out that and lots of other backround stuff. But kids can be taken when they are just babies.
     
  16. Qu_Klaani

    Qu_Klaani Jedi Padawan star 4

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    "I wonder if the Jedi would still take the children from the parents even if the parents refused?"

    In Dark Rendevous someone mentions that "every Jedi is a child their parents decided they could live without," it is EU yes, but theres no movie source, so Id say its up to the parent. Someone'll have to ask Lucas some time.
     
  17. LottDodd

    LottDodd Jedi Master star 4

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    I think this is a Key part of the Propaganda Used in turning the Galaxy against the Jedi...

    They are Cradle Robbers.... Stigmatised in the same way Gypsies were (or are).
     
  18. Avanalla

    Avanalla Jedi Knight

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    In one of the Jedi Apprentice books (11) there is a mother who chose to keep her son. He then wandered the galaxy and ended up being killed by a crazy scientist who was running experimants on Force sensitives. So I suppose that's what happened if parents kept their children.
     
  19. LottDodd

    LottDodd Jedi Master star 4

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    Sounds Like Jedi Propaganda to me.....
     
  20. Avanalla

    Avanalla Jedi Knight

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    I wonder how siblings cope with having a Jedi for a brother or sister?
     
  21. DarthLazious

    DarthLazious Jedi Youngling star 4

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    When they are 1st born they taken from thier parents to begin thier Jedi training.
     
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