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How to recreate Casino Royale Title Sequence?

Discussion in 'Fan Films, Fan Audio & SciFi 3D' started by Anything-is-possible, Apr 20, 2008.

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  1. Anything-is-possible

    Anything-is-possible Jedi Youngling

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    I'd like to no how to go about re-creating the FX used in the title sequence for James Bond: Casino Royale.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nfc9GLxlhEw&feature=related (the sequence from 1 minute in mainly)

    Does anyone know how to do this or have a couple of tutorials i can work from? I have AE and Premiere but i have access to other software if needed.

    How long would a process like this take to add to a film? (around 5 minutes in running length)

    What limitations would i have making a film in this style?
     
  2. liambauckham

    liambauckham Jedi Youngling star 3

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    i too would like to know the answer to this
     
  3. effstops

    effstops Jedi Master star 3

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    That's an awesome title sequence, but there are so many techniques being employed here - there's no tutorial you can follow to achieve this sort of look. If you're interested in creating work similar to this, look up motion graphics tutorials. But there's SO MUCH going on. Graphic design. 2D, 3D, artful rotoscoping, camera matchmoving, probably keying, particle work, etc. etc..

    I'd definitely check out the video tutorials over at Video Copilot, if you haven't already, but there's a lot of techniques to learn... remember, there are studios that focus entirely on title design work for feature films, so this stuff can get pretty complex.

    --Colin
     
  4. Wookieefett

    Wookieefett Jedi Youngling star 3

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    Calling Vidina to this thread!
    We might do a tutorial over on Aurellia for this...
     
  5. liambauckham

    liambauckham Jedi Youngling star 3

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    sounds like a plan
     
  6. Anything-is-possible

    Anything-is-possible Jedi Youngling

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    There is a lot going on but im talking more just about the people fighting not the backgrounds or any of the other fancy stuff thats at work here. Although theres probably a lot going on just for them!
    I did a small amount of research on motion graphics and it all seemed to be aimed more at making moving titles then anything else. Or am i just looking in the wrong place?


    Where there any in particular you were thinking i should look at?


    Im a quick learner and im not scared of a lot of work.



    Im too new here to know who that is. im assuming they are good though. *waits for their arrival*


    I did a quick google search for Aurellia and i didnt find anything? What is this you speak off? And how can i get a tutorial made over there? Ass kissing is probably the best way.

    Im shocked that this is such a hard question, i expected to be called a noob for knowing how to do this. I thought it was similar to the Ipod advert effect.

     
  7. effstops

    effstops Jedi Master star 3

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    Oh, I didn't realize you were mainly talking about the guys fighting. Well, I see two possibilities. Either way would be totally possible.

    The most straightforward would be to shoot this on a greenscreen, though I don't see how that would really it any easier. But clearly you'd shoot in slow motion, and then you would rotoscope the guys entirely by hand. What makes this so different is that elements are isolated and treated as graphical elements (the tie, the head, the hands, etc.), and it has an angular style. A lot of consideration must be given to the distribution of points on the mask, and it looks like it was keyed on every frame. It may be possible that motion trackers were used on the body (like they wore black suits, and had white tracking markers taped to them at various points) to help automate some of this, but somehow I doubt it.

    The other possibility is because of the inherent graphical and angulare nature of it, they may have actually done this in 3D. I doubt this too, but it's a possibility. Like, motion capture the guys and apply it to a low-poly custom-built character with low-poly cloth simulation and specialized shaders.

    Yep, I'd prolly do it the first way.

    --Colin
     
  8. Vidina

    Vidina Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    Oy.
    The effect you're referring to is damn simple. In theory. It involves rotoscoping like crazy, and will probably take some time to do. If you're planning on having the effect non-stop for 5 minutes, I imagine you'll be doing maybe one frame per day. In photoshop. If you use After effects, you could pump it up a notch though.

    Motion graphics are mostly used in movie titles, sure, but motion graphics are basically just moving objects made from scratch. (not rotoscoped or traced)



    You'll regret saying that. Believe me.


    I'm alright.

    Look in mine and Wookieefetts signatures. or profiles. And yes, you can have tutorials made there, since we have a request section.

    The question is hard, since the opening titles feature a LOT more than just guys fighting. And yeah, the effect is similiar to the ipod adverts, although theres some rotoscoping going on to make it more artsy.

    If you want a tutorial made, request one at aurellia. And btw; http://www.google.com/search?q=aurellia <-on my comp, aurellia's the top link. Doesn't sound like you did much googling.
     
  9. Anything-is-possible

    Anything-is-possible Jedi Youngling

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    Luckly I have After Effects and have had far to much practise rotoscoping but it still sounds like it will take forever.


    Thanks for clearing that one up, the deffinition i read wasnt so clear.



    I have been learning the different aspects of film for the last 5 years, im awear of how much work these processes take. However i was lying when i said i was scared ;)

    As for the site, it would have helped if i had have spelt it correctly when searching google. my mistake. I shall request a tutorial and hope for the best.

    In the mean time i have been practising different methods to see how close i could get it. Ive just been using random bits of greenscreen footage ive found on the net while im practising.

    http://bfnpkg.bay.livefilestore.com/y1pCqCgqgU4uoXO66cLOsybxhdAbCu_txoDz-YobcSbh6BxMWTieAonWyhI7gwrSAAt9ZtjUYEx_6E3VdAFGQu2qw/bond%20effects1.bmp

    Its not right yet, what would you guys do to it next?
     
  10. bobaandy123

    bobaandy123 Jedi Master star 3

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    I've actually tried this before. Didn't turn out good, but i learned a few things.

    First of all, if you want the perfect "iPod" people look, rotoscoping is going to be the way to do it. However, if you have your actors wear black suits with white shirts, or any other high contrast combo, and shoot them against a greenscreen, you can cheat by increasing the contrast 100% so everything is either one color or the other. For the face, roto it off, and add a serious "cartoon" effect and tint it whatever color. Again, this cheating isin't going to as good, but it will get make it a lot easier and more practical to do.
     
  11. bgii_2000

    bgii_2000 Jedi Padawan star 4

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    If you wanted that same camera move and style of animation, this would be way easier to do as a completely 3D effect. I'm sure that's how it was done for the Casino Royal.
     
  12. Jedi_Monk

    Jedi_Monk Jedi Youngling star 3

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    I think bobaandy has the right idea... high contrast clothing, bump up the contrast even more to get rid of details, and maybe apply the poster edges effect to reduce the details even more...
     
  13. Med_21B

    Med_21B Jedi Master star 4

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    Giving it a couple watches, I would definitely say that that particular sequence was done completely with CG characters, maybe some motion tracking. I would almost guarantee that rotoscoping wasn't the primary technique employed here.

    As others have pointed out, this certainly isn't the only way to do this effect, but with those sweeping camera angles and things, I think it was something a little more complex.

    _Max
     
  14. Mister-X

    Mister-X Jedi Master star 2

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    I wonder why you say that? To me, it looks like roto (which it is).
     
  15. Vidina

    Vidina Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    Hah, I was completely right.
     
  16. TrowaGP02a

    TrowaGP02a Jedi Master star 4

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    Those camera angles are hardly complex to get with no other than a dolly/jib, or a crane but that seems completely unnecessary.
     
  17. Med_21B

    Med_21B Jedi Master star 4

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    Damn! Color me surprised (and ignorant)!:p

    _Max
     
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