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PT How was Anakin safe from Order 66?

Discussion in 'Prequel Trilogy' started by LukeTano, Jan 5, 2024.

  1. LukeTano

    LukeTano Jedi Master star 3

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    It seems to target all Jedi, and even can target ex-Jedi, like Ahsoka, so even Anakin leaving the order wouldn't, in and of itself, create a loophole making him safe from it.

    So how was Anakin not a victim of the 501st while marching up to the Temple, or when encountering the clones from another other squadron (assuming that maybe the 501st was just told to kill all the Jedi in the Temple and not given Order 66)?
     
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  2. darth-sinister

    darth-sinister Manager Emeritus star 10 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    The biochips were programmed to not kill him.
     
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  3. christophero30

    christophero30 Chosen One star 10

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    The clones liked his flowing hair.
     
  4. Jedi Bluth

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    He changed his named to Vader. As they said, Anakin was dead, long live Vader.
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  5. LukeTano

    LukeTano Jedi Master star 3

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    Seems kind of risky there. That would mean that Sidious was sure that it was a shoe in that Anakin would turn, and wouldn't be on the side of the Jedi.
     
  6. darth-sinister

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    It was just as risky being on the Invisible Hand during a full scale battle.
     
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  7. darthvader88

    darthvader88 Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    Knowing Palpatine he probably had a failsafe for that too..

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  8. jedi_master_ousley

    jedi_master_ousley Force Ghost star 8

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    The 501st likely received special orders. We see the Emperor giving the order to specific clone groups (and addresses Cody directly). It is likely he did the same for the 501st with special instructions that Anakin/Vader is exempt as he is no longer a Jedi.
     
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  9. DARTHLINK

    DARTHLINK Force Ghost star 4

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    This. It's likely he had the 501st on standby on Coruscant, and before he sent Anakin over, he instructed them to not kill him.
     
  10. darthvader88

    darthvader88 Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    Palpatine likely had the Clones Instructed to not shoot/kill whoever would be leading the attack on the temple..

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  11. ConservativeJedi321

    ConservativeJedi321 Force Ghost star 6

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    There are a lot of questions about how exactly the biochips distinguish between friend in foe in canon.
    Very little of it actually makes sense.
     
  12. Vasco_Rojo

    Vasco_Rojo Jedi Master star 2

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    Exactly


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  13. darth-sinister

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    If you're a Jedi, you're dead.
     
  14. DARTHLINK

    DARTHLINK Force Ghost star 4

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    How would they know, though? Like I'm not a Force user, but if I took a stick and started waving it around like a lightsaber and waving my arms around, would they think I was a Jedi?
     
  15. jedi_master_ousley

    jedi_master_ousley Force Ghost star 8

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    The clones were soldiers and the Jedi were their generals. They knew the person giving them orders was a Jedi in situations where that was applicable.
     
  16. darthvader88

    darthvader88 Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    To be honest, I think that had Anakin not turned would not be safe from the Clones. Maybe it was perceived that a Jedi was going to lead them on the assault of the Jedi Temple, and they were given orders to obey him/her or whoever it would have been..

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  17. ConservativeJedi321

    ConservativeJedi321 Force Ghost star 6

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    Unless you happen to be one of the indeterminate (But far more than one), Jedi that Palpatine arbitrarily decided are going to join his side after the rise of the Empire.
    Hence why I loathe the concept of the Inquisitorious. It muddies the waters too much. It's kind of a side tangent but offers some depth to the threads discussion that I thought it was worth bringing up.
     
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  18. darthvader88

    darthvader88 Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    Do you think Order 66 was designed to wipe out other force wielding sects instead of the Jedi?

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  19. darth-sinister

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    They were attacking the Jedi that they served under.

    The Grand Inquisitor from "Rebels" and "Obi-Wan Kenobi" appears to have turned before the war ended and thus was included in the "protected" list. Those who survived like Reva were spared by fiat of Vader and the Grand Inquisitor.

    No, because the others were killed before Order 66 was initiated. Anyone still alive like Maul and the Nightsister in "Jedi Outcast" were subject to termination via Vader and the Inqusitors. By that point, the Stormtroopers were aiding in the hunt.
     
  20. Watcherwithin

    Watcherwithin Jedi Master star 4

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    This whole argument can be solved if we recognize that Order 66 doesn’t work the way people think it does after the fives arc
     
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  21. DarthHass

    DarthHass Force Ghost star 4

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    A failsafe for his designated Sith Lord. Could’ve been Anakin or Dooku or whoever
     
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  22. dagenspear

    dagenspear Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    Goodness if that had been the reason the show gave for Reva surviving as a child and being overlooked like she was, I think that would've helped for me.
     
  23. lord_sidious_

    lord_sidious_ Jedi Master star 3

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    Yeah probably the 501st were the only ones on Coruscant at the time? They would the first to receive the message that Anakin is no longer a Jedi and therefore exempt, and then Sidious still has until any other clones return to broadcast that message to the rest of the clones.
     
  24. ConservativeJedi321

    ConservativeJedi321 Force Ghost star 6

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    No sequester.

    The timeline of events surrounding the Inquisitors introduction is extremely convoluted, your explanation works for the Grand Inquisitor but grows weaker for this like the Second Sister and those found in hiding shortly after Order 66 was initiated when you'd expect the Clones to be in bat *** trigger happy mode.
    Rise of the Red Blades complicates things further, but I won't go deeper into that for fear of treading into spoiler territory. (It's been out six months but still.)
     
  25. darth-sinister

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    It's not difficult to understand. Vader knows who she is and seeing that she was alive but turned to dark side gave him the reason to let her live. You can tell that he is impressed with her to a degree.

    The effects of Order 66 were short term. This is evident by the time Obi-Wan finds the one while looking for Leia. The Clonetroopers were also given additional orders which is why until they were replaced with Stormtroopers, they didn't just kill the Jedi survivors. Those who willing joined the Empire and the Inqusitors were spared termination.