How would you beat the Yuuzhan Vong?

Ok, say you are in charge of things in the galaxy, say you have the New Republic, not only military but also the Senate and the intelligence community, following your orders. Further, you have the Jedi listening to you, as well as the Hapans, Adumar, even what is left of the Hutts on your side. How do you win? What do you do, militarily, politically, economically?
Defend certain systems? Reach out to some new players like the Ssi-ruuk or the Aing Tii? Go on the offensive? Develop bioweapons? What?

 

Hair spray! Politically I would argue that it's cheap and safe to anyone but the Yuuzhan Vong. It could freeze up their ships. Economically using hair spray would help. More people would buy it as a way to protect themselves.

j/k

If I had that much power I would use that to argue for my idea, economically the sale of weapons and the needed positions would provide jobs. Militarily I would split the fleets up and deploy them to several different staging points.

 

The first thing I do is go on the counter offensive. Now that the seat of my govenment has been taken and I am free again, I would strike back to stop the Vong advance.

Then I would reorganize and redistribute the fleets to hold really important worlds, and the rest of the ships would go into two battle fleets that would take back terrirtory like the Island hopping capaign of WWII. My theory is that if the Vong have to defend, they cant attack. If they lose to us, then they get cut off otherwise.

I would also try and make contact with Mon Calamari. They were isolated, but I'll be a months paycheck they haven't been inactive. With all the resources out there, I am fairly sure they will have built up a decent fleet. I use that fleet to pressure the right flank of the Vong.

Also I would try and swing the Empire and their allies into the war after we have had a little success, and use them to pressure the left flank of the Vong.

I believe that with these three pronged assaults happening, the Vong will wilt and die. They will be contained and forced back further and further until they have to withdraw from the galaxy together.





And I much would prefer RAID to kill off the Vong. One really really big can, and then spray it all over the territory they hold and worlds it looks like they might take.



bterrik

 

The first thing I do is go on the counter offensive. Now that the seat of my govenment has been taken and I am free again, I would strike back to stop the Vong advance.

Lord knows, it has been tried yet.

Then I would reorganize and redistribute the fleets to hold really important worlds, and the rest of the ships would go into two battle fleets that would take back terrirtory like the Island hopping capaign of WWII.

Also, formalizing small strike teams to hit Vong worlds set up to grow ship hulls and other pieces of organic tech. I get the impression that since the Vong choose luch worlds to grow certain things, drop a few asteroids on them to kick up a stink load of dust to blot out the sun.

My theory is that if the Vong have to defend, they cant attack. If they lose to us, then they get cut off otherwise.

Usually true. Perhaps going back to old-Rebel techniques of hit-and-fade operations to harry transports.

I would also try and make contact with Mon Calamari. They were isolated, but I'll be a months paycheck they haven't been inactive. With all the resources out there, I am fairly sure they will have built up a decent fleet. I use that fleet to pressure the right flank of the Vong.


All those ship yards probably haven't been sitting idle.

Also I would try and swing the Empire and their allies into the war after we have had a little success, and use them to pressure the left flank of the Vong.

That won't be hard since I am betting the Vong will come-a-knocking for them soon.

I believe that with these three pronged assaults happening, the Vong will wilt and die. They will be contained and forced back further and further until they have to withdraw from the galaxy together.

Start construction of a more poweful class of Interdictor Star Destroyer- the Vong had a real problem against the Corusca Rainbow in Ruin. Lots of battledroids for psychological warfare, commando raids, that sort of thing.

 

The answer is fairly simple, and is the reason why Ithor was destroyed. The trees. More accurately bafforr tree pollen. We know that there was a grove on Garqi where it was learned what the pollen does to Vong armor. And there was also one on Tatooine. There was probably one on Coruscant, and who knows how many other planets. As it seems likely that the Vong have returned to using living armor, using bafforr pollen against them would be devastating. And who knows what other creations of theirs would be affected.

 

Most likely the Vong have developed resistances to the pollen. Why? Because they are the masters of bio-tech. It is unwise to use any biohazardous or biochemical weaponry against the Vong, they could easily get their shapers to shape resistance to it.

I would protect Thyferra, Kuat and Belbringi... they are vital to the war effort. And from there on, fight the Vong like the Rebellion fought the Empire.

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The NR is pathetic. If Palpatine was in rule when the Vong attacked, none of this would have happened. Palpatine would have dealt with the Vong menace very easily... he wouldn't be as wussy as NR senators and politicians and his aggressive nature would have ensured his success. NR needs strong leadership and less losers in the Senate. The fall of Coruscant was inevitable due to the power-hungry nature of the Senate. I HATE POLITICIANS!@#

Well that is my view... don't flame me for it

 

I agree.

Also, Ysanne Isard would have worked well aginst them. She'sinsane enough to do so.

Ara
(Insane Isard wannabe and proud of it!)

 

Damn, forgot bout Iceheart

She would be good, but not as great as Palpatine

In some ways, Palpatine would be better against the Vong than Thrawn... his aggression and dark insights through the Force would be as effective as Thrawn's unique and exceptional intelligence and wisdom

 

How would I defeat the Yuzhan Vong? Simple. Use the Death Star plans to build a superweapon, like what the Hutts had planned with project "Darksaber". I bet the Rebels wish they hadn't destroyed the Deathstar's, Galaxy gun, Suncrusher, World devestators, etc.

I would also try to capture Vong technology in order to understand how it works. And there so how to destroy it.

It was shown that in Darksaber, the force can be used to push ships away from a planet. Why not just push the Vong fleet into a star.

Lastly I would enlist the help of the two most feared and Strongest races in the Galaxy to deal with the Vong. The Ewoks, and the Gungans. Nothing can stop them.

 

This is a hard question, especially since no one can beat the Yuuzhan Vong!

If I was in charge of the NR, I'd surrender and convert to their religion to speed up their assimilation of the galaxy.

either that or hit 'em hard before they were strong, way back around Dark Tide.

 

I would spread my forces out so it would become harder for the Vong to kill a significant portion of my fleet (It is said that the Rebels spread themselves out so Isard could never destroy them, X-Wing series).

I would build new shipyards on the safeside of the GFFA, new Bacta plants (Thyferra won't last long now the NR are retreating)
I would not put a large part of my fleet in one spersific system, but have them on stand by ready to defend sysytems.

I would prepare a major counter-offensive between the NR, IR, Chiss, Hutts, Hapans, Aing Tii and whatever else there is, and attack vital Vong worlds and fleets.

Finally, I would enlist the help of the very Hi-Tech Aing Tii fleet (with their instant hyperdrives and whatever else they have in their pack of cards).
I would also rebuild old Rebel bases Hoth, etc, cos that's the last place they would look.
The reactivating of Centrepoint, in the hands of careful people of course, to destroy Vong fleets and Worldships.

Palpatine would cower when I enter a room!

 

"I HATE POLITICIANS!@#"

I couldn't have said that better myself Vegex...

And I also agree that if Palpy, being the power-hungry old dude that we so lovingly know him to be, was in charge, he would have flash-fried the Yuzzies by now. If not for whining, peacey folk like Mon mothma, who try to dismantle the very military that keeps the NR's citizens alive, then the Galaxy would be much better off to deal with the Vong.

 

Palpatine would have been good because he would have dealt with the matter swiftly and efficiently.

As for using the Death Star or the Darksabre, I don't think it would have been very effective. Both super laser weapons have a very bad cooldown rate, and it can only hit a single target. After one shot, it would take out probably a worldship or a capital ship... but after that skips and the Vong "corvettes" would lay waste to its super laser, the ships escorting it and the ship itself.

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The NR needs more YVH droids from SbS, use many proton torpedo launchers on their capital ships and they need to use brute force to fight the Vong.

The Jedi need to be more aggressive. The old order of Jedi... Qui-Gonn and Obi-Wan were much more aggressive. They did so much when a threat presented itself and they dealt with it quickly and efficiently without falling to the dark side. In SbS, they start to get their act together and launch counter-offensive and offensive attacks against Vong attack forces. We should see more of this

Military leaders need to lead the NR like how they did in the Rebellion. Sure Mon Mothma did lead the NR, but it seemed as if the military leaders had more of a say in matters.

 

if i were in charge, i would suck up to the jedi extremely bad. Then make one huge lightsaber preferably the size of a huge tower that once stood in courscant. Then light the sucker up and slice and dice the YV.

 

easy, spend all te budget on building superweapons like the deathstar or the suncrusher. That'd rid the universe from the Yuuzhan vong.

 

"The Jedi need to be more aggressive. The old order of Jedi... Qui-Gonn and Obi-Wan were much more aggressive. They did so much when a threat presented itself and they dealt with it quickly and efficiently without falling to the dark side."

Finally! Someone who actually watched the movies!

As for how to beat the Vong, i would have the fleet joined together to avoid getting smaller groups destroyed. I'd take that fleet and go island hopping (Hoorah!) just as someone else suggested here. Centerpoint would be reactivated with a very skilled and trusted Jedi at it's controls. Any attacks from the combined fleet would receive long range support from Centerpoint.

 

"i would have the fleet joined together to avoid getting smaller groups destroyed"

Ah, but what happens when the Yuzzies find out where that big fleet is? Kaput! They'll be on it like a vornskr on meatrolls, and tear it to shreds. Never put your eggs in one basket is going to ring true even more for the NR now that they've started a guerilla war.

"Centerpoint would be reactivated with a very skilled and trusted Jedi at it's controls."

Don't get me wrong, the idea of using Centerpoint has a lot of merit to it, and I would probably do the same. The problem though is the Jedi part. If, by using Centerpoint to wipe out hundreds of thousands of Vong, they have suddenly become the "hypocrisy" the Sith see them as: they claim to protect life, yet manipulate and annihilate it under a veil of good morals. Besides, what Jedi, aside from Kyp Durron a.k.a. Arrogant Snotball, is going to take a risk so close to the darkside?

 

Right, like the vong could wipe out the entire fleet. That is just unrealistic. Especially now after what we saw happen to their fighting at the end of SBS.


Wiping out the enemy is sometimes required when you are to protect your own peoples. All Jedi are guardians and should know to do that and could do it without going to the dark side.

And Kyp may come off as being close to the dark side when authors write their books, but all I see is him acting like Jedi act in the movies... Jedi that I'm sure you would say are the greatest examples of jedi ever.

 

Wasn't centerpoint station inoperable after it was last activated?

anyway...

If I were the head of the NR military... hmmm... Someone earlier said that bio-warfare wouldn't be a viable option. This is true, but only in the long run. The NR must have some Vong tech to study. (They should have been developing methods of poisoning/killing their ships ever since they got their hands on that coralskipper.) The NR should orgainize their forces into a number of small "hit and run" fleets. They are to jump into Vong fleets, deploy the bio-weapons, and jump out. (I imagine the delivery system would be analogous to mine laying artillery shells used on Earth. A missile is fired. When its sensors pick up a gravity well at a certain distance, it breaks up into smaller units carrying the toxin and set to home in on yorrik coral. Some should get past the dovin basals, latch onto the hulls, and explode) These attacks should be initiated almost simultaenously. This prevents the Vong from warning other fleets, developing tactics against the weapons themselves (not the toxin), or setting up traps for these hit and run fleets.

Eventually the enemy will find a way to "re-shape" them to fight against such toxins, but it takes time to re-equip an invading force. During the planning and execution of the bio-warfare attacks, NR diplomats should be working on allying with the galaxy's remaining powers. The IR and the Chiss will probably be acting soon. The Mon Calamari have probably been working their shipyards overtime. The Hapans have some ships left. They may not be too happy with the NR, but it's not like they can sit there and do nothing. Even the CSA is going to have to fight eventually. They can't weasel their way out of a fight with the Vong.

Once there is a consolidated force, the Allies should first concentrate on defending strategic worlds. Large Allied fleets should defend the shipyards at Kuat, Bastion, and Mon Calamari. I'm not sure about Thyferra. If there's something about that specific world that lends itself to bacta production, this world should be equally defended. However, if it is a matter of Thyferra merely holding a monopoly, move its production facilities to another world... quietly. Either way, it can be used for a trap. I suspect that this will be a high priority target for Vong retaliation. First, leave a slave-rigged "dummy" fleet in orbit. When it is attacked, have the dummy fleet begin targeting and ramming enemy ships. Once about 3/4 of these slave rigged ships have been destroyed, have the real defending fleet de-cloak and take out what's left.

After all this, the Vong will have been significatnly crippled. Organize a sizable attack fleet, and begin "planet-hopping" from conquered wolrd to conquered world, drawing on ships from defense fleets as needed. Achieving orbital superiority should not be very difficult. Once this has been established, deploy orbital nightcloak satellites, and land battle droids (with a few squadrons of "live" soldiers) to take care of ground forces. The droids should be programmed to take no prisoners. If any jedi among Allied ground forces have some moral dilemma with this, don't use them. The only way the Vong are going to be stopped is to, in the words of Palpatine, "Wipe them out... all of them."

Wow, i put way too much thought into this. oh well. Mesa bored.

 

I would take all the Jedi who didn't have a mind to go on the offense captive, so they would no longer be able to slow down the war effort. Then I would convince them to stop putting their personal agendas and cares about each other first... or else. The rest of the Order would become tacticians rather than simple guerilla troopsl I would use them to coordinate my armadas, like Palpatine did... I would invent new fighters of humanoid design to increase maneuverability and adaptibility... I would raid centers of commerce within my own worlds and take money from casinos and other such wastes of time to help win my war, and start building new Eclipse-class destroyers... to blow up those pesky worldships.

 

Using bio-weaponry is not worth it. You have to get scientists to actually design a plague or toxin to use against the Vong. After one or two battles, the Vong shapers will counter it. Best thing to do is use lots and lots of proton torpedos. Jedi can use them extremely effectively (seen in SbS) and even the NR military can hurt the Vong with them.

If the IR puts Missile Boats and TIE defenders back into production, they would be very VERY good against the Vong.

 

The should use everything at their disposal. Be as nasty, and ruthless, and more, than the Vong are.

They should pull out the battle droids, the clones, flamethrowers, napalm, shrapnel canons, and whatever else they can think of and don't stop, relent, or pause until every last man, woman, and child Vong is dead. Period.

 

I'm guessing the Shamed Ones join the Jedi and fight the rest of the Vong.

 

In a twist of irony, I would have Luke Skywalker command a new Death Star. Instead of all the levels like the first death star, I would have the Death Star consist of only the necessary materials and equipment to stay functional. The rest of the Death Star would be massive amounts of protective armor layers. That way, the death star could take a huge beating with out being destroyed.

 

Mass produce the new war droids that Lando developed, and go on the offensive!