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human homeworld and the "Core Worlds"

Discussion in 'EU Community' started by rob117, Mar 5, 2005.

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  1. rob117

    rob117 Jedi Youngling

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    Does anyone know where the humans supposedly originated in the Star Wars universe? I've heard before that it was one of the core worlds, but Earth is situated in one of the spiral arms of the Milky Way. Most of the technical commentaries on this site suggest SW takes place in our own galaxy's future, with "a long time ago in a galaxy far, far away" being an artistic license. This certainly takes care of the strange phenomenon of the existence of humans like us in another galaxy. If this is the case, and, as some people say, either Correlia or Coruscant is supposed to be Earth hundreds of thousands of years in the future (as suggested by the presence of Earth fauna such as panthers on Correlia), how exactly did Earth get to the "core" of the galaxy? Or are are the "core worlds" not really in the galactic core, but simply named that because they are the "core" of galactic civilization? Or perhaps humans did not originate on the core worlds, but the core worlds were the earliest colonies settled by Earth, and eventually replaced Earth as the center of human culture. If anyone else is interested in creating a coherent universe out of SW, maybe you could help me with this, (as I'm writing a fan-fic).
     
  2. Darth_Vaders_cousin

    Darth_Vaders_cousin Jedi Knight star 5

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    "A long time ago in a galaxy far, far away" isn't artistic license, its GL's almighty word. And though he contridicts himself in many ways, that still holds true. Many of the Trailers for the trilogy stated that this could be happening in the galaxy right now. (condridiction)....But, it is entirely possible that Corsucant started out much like Earth did, same animals fauna, humans, then though immigration and space travle, they spread to other worlds. Is it not possible that in the baggillions of gillions of stars in our own galaxy that somewhere their is life on a planet that is just like earthly life? Maybe they were created before us, there fore have evoled to spae flight and the like.
     
  3. djcati

    djcati Jedi Master star 4

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    Perhaps we ourselves are descended from natives of Coruscant. If it took place such a long time ago, who's to say a ship or several didn't crash land on some crazy mission, and knowledge of the far reaches of the galaxy, etc, was lost down the generations? Adumar, anyone?


    (Darwin. Pfft. Who needs 'im?)
     
  4. CmdrMitthrawnuruodo

    CmdrMitthrawnuruodo Force Ghost star 6

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    Earth isnt in the Star Wars galaxy and the events in the movie happened a long time ago in a galaxy far, far away. Lucas has said that much in interviews. Corellia is the most likely candidate for the Human homeworld since its present location is not its first. Corellia and its neighboring planets were moved to the Cor system by an ancient and advanced alien race using Centerpoint Station. Colonization began from Corellia and I believe it was the Corellians who encountered a hyperdrive capable race. Originally I thought it was the Rakata but I remember the Guardian Droid in the Dantooine Ruins not recognizing a Human as of the slave species so its most likely the Rakata have not encountered Humans in their time of rule. After all they do claim they are the ones who seeded worlds, invented the hyperdrive, and a bunch of other stuff. Also the "panthers" on Corellia are not Earth panthers. They do not look like or have the same biology as Earth panthers. The Corellian Sandpanther is a feline predator that hunts at night and has poisoness claws.

    Coruscant's native aliens are not human.

    For more information on these worlds I recommend reading the "Coruscant and the Core Worlds" sourcebook.
     
  5. Jaina Byrd

    Jaina Byrd Jedi Master star 4

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    Cati, that is a lovely way of thinking about it. I shall use that ideology from now on. ;)

    As for weighing in on this for real, I'm going to have to say that our Earth is not in the GFFA.
     
  6. Chancellor_Ewok

    Chancellor_Ewok Chosen One star 7

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    My thoughts on this are that its our galaxy, but its so far in the future that Earth has either been destroy, or its location has been lost, or both.
     
  7. ThrawnRocks

    ThrawnRocks Jedi Master star 6

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    Lucas origonally was planning on the movies taking place in our galaxy in the far future, but he scrapped the idea.
     
  8. GrandAdmiralJello

    GrandAdmiralJello Comms Admin ❉ Moderator Communitatis Litterarumque star 10 Staff Member Administrator

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    Actually, Mitth, the CatCW sourcebook does indicate that Coruscant may--in fact--be the Human (since Humanity is a species in Star Wars like Calamari or Bothan, a proper noun is required) homeworld.

    After all, Humans were on Coruscant from before the development of the hyperdrive, and it is known that
    Coruscanti colonized many worlds. This could also explain why many hyperlanes tend to pass through or originate at Coruscant, as well as give Coruscant a reason for her cultural significance.
     
  9. SaeseeJim

    SaeseeJim Jedi Padawan star 4

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    If construction keeps going the way it is I wouldn't be surprised if earth does become a city planet in a thousand years or so.
     
  10. rob117

    rob117 Jedi Youngling

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    "Earth isnt in the Star Wars galaxy and the events in the movie happened a long time ago in a galaxy far, far away. Lucas has said that much in interviews. "

    I know he's said that, but on the other hand there are simply so many hints that SW is in our own galaxy in the future- not so much in the movies as in the expanded universe. Lucas does not have complete control over what people write in the EU after all. While I was wrong about the Correlian panthers, there are several Earth based species spread all throughout the galaxy- most notably humans, but also horses, ducks, and rats. Adding to the hints, these species are all spread throughout many planets, and their original homeworld is unknown. There's also the fact that the word "monoc," a derogatory name for the one-eyed Abyssin species, is derived from Latin; mono, one, oculus, eye. Perhaps certain Latin phrases survived into the far future, as they have until today.

    "Corellia is the most likely candidate for the Human homeworld since its present location is not its first. Corellia and its neighboring planets were moved to the Cor system by an ancient and advanced alien race using Centerpoint Station. Colonization began from Corellia and I believe it was the Corellians who encountered a hyperdrive capable race."

    If that's the case than perhaps:
    1- Humans on Earth use sublight ships to migrate to Corellia in a neighboring system, perhaps due to overpopulation on Earth. They also bring some other Earth species with them, such as ducks, horses, rats, perhaps dogs and other pets, etc.
    2- Earth is destroyed, by aliens or by some other catastrophe. Humans now inhabit only Corellia.
    3- An advanced alien race uses their technology to move Corellia from its location in the Orion arm of the galaxy to a location closer to the core of the galaxy. Corellia becomes one of the Core Worlds.
    4- Humans on Corellia once again migrate to neighboring systems using sublight ships, and begin to populate the Core Worlds.
    5- The Corellians meet a hyperdrive-capable race, and acquire hyperspace technology. They are now capable of traveling much farther and faster than before.
    6- Humans begin to inhabit many worlds across the galaxy, and, over hundreds of thousands of years, some of those human populations diverge genetically from the original stock, becoming the numerous near-human species, such as the Zabrak, Iridonians, Massasi, etc. In at least one case, humans manage to migrate into another galaxy, where they become the Yuuzhan Vong.
    7- Humans become the dominant species in the Milky Way due to their sheer numbers. They are the most abundantly represented species in the Galactic Senate.

    That sounds like something I can use for the fanfic.

    " Also the "panthers" on Corellia are not Earth panthers. They do not look like or have the same biology as Earth panthers. The Corellian Sandpanther is a feline predator that hunts at night and has poisoness claws. "

    Oh. But I saw a picture of one in a book and it looked just like an Earth panther to me.

    "For more information on these worlds I recommend reading the "Coruscant and the Core Worlds" sourcebook."

    Thanks, I'll try and find that.
     
  11. Dev_Binks

    Dev_Binks Jedi Knight star 6

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    That sounds like something I can use for the fanfic.

    It does, doesn't it.

    And I think Humanity in the GFFA, was said to have originated from Corellia, and migrated to Coruscant, but lost contact with Corellia or something, and then spread out from Coruscant, populating the planets like Alderaan and Naboo.

    And I'm fairly sure the Duros were the first species with hyperdrive.
     
  12. GrandAdmiralJello

    GrandAdmiralJello Comms Admin ❉ Moderator Communitatis Litterarumque star 10 Staff Member Administrator

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    Dev: There's no definive source that says Corellia is the Human homeworld.




    [i][blockquote]If construction keeps going the way it is I wouldn't be surprised if earth does become a city planet in a thousand years or so.
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    Impossible. Especially since the majority of the planet isn't even built over. We don't have the capacity to have a stable planet if we tried, anyway.

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    As for Earth species... that's artistic license. Remember the whole "what's a duck?" joke from the ANH novel?
     
  13. Darth_Vaders_cousin

    Darth_Vaders_cousin Jedi Knight star 5

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    According to the Essentials Guide to Aliens, The first human colonists arive on Alderaan around 27,000 years before the battle of Yavin.
     
  14. GrandAdmiralJello

    GrandAdmiralJello Comms Admin ❉ Moderator Communitatis Litterarumque star 10 Staff Member Administrator

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    Interesting. So that makes Alderaan one of the later Human worlds, since it barely preceeds the Republic.
     
  15. Vongchild

    Vongchild Jedi Grand Master star 5

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    6- Humans begin to inhabit many worlds across the galaxy, and, over hundreds of thousands of years, some of those human populations diverge genetically from the original stock, becoming the numerous near-human species, such as the Zabrak, Iridonians, Massasi, etc. In at least one case, humans manage to migrate into another galaxy, where they become the Yuuzhan Vong.

    Have I not said this from the beginning? :p

    Actually, my theory is that earth humans are either the Yuuzhan Vong or the things that attacked the Yuuzhan Vong. ;)

    But close enough, right?
     
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