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Discussion in 'Star Wars Saga In-Depth' started by Emi-Yan_Tetu, Jun 4, 2003.

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  1. Emi-Yan_Tetu

    Emi-Yan_Tetu Jedi Youngling star 2

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    Hey people. I was wondering if you have any ideas on what exactly the deal is with "humans" in the Star Wars galaxy!?

    Are they the most common race? The most powerful race?

    There seems to be plently of sophisticated alien species in the Republic as depicted in the PT but the Empire (and Rebel Alliance) end up consisting nearly entirely of humans in the OT?

    Any ideas?

    What percentage of the Star Wars galaxy would you say was human?
     
  2. Kai_Halicon

    Kai_Halicon Jedi Padawan star 4

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    Seeing as the human race seems to show up just about everywhere in the GFFA it's a safe bet to say that human colonies exist throughout the cosmos.

    I've always been intrigued by the fact that there's never been any mention of Earth.....
     
  3. ForceHeretic

    ForceHeretic Jedi Youngling star 4

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    Well Earth isn't in their galaxy

    "A long time ago in a galaxy far far away"

    If it was our galaxy it wouldn't be very far away now would it
     
  4. Dayron_182

    Dayron_182 Jedi Youngling

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    I guess humans being the most adaptable race, they're just... everywhere. Hah.
     
  5. Kwenn

    Kwenn Jedi Grand Master star 5

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    Well the human language - called Basic in SW - is the most common, and humans do seem to be in larger numbers than any other species; just look at the Jedi in the arena. A large percentage of the 200 Jedi there were human. There were only a dozen-or-so non-humans, and they were all still humanoid.
     
  6. Corran

    Corran Jedi Padawan star 4

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    Well the human race is one of the races that are moving around Not all other species have the need to leave theyre planet and live other places.
    An other thing is that it might be that there are diffrent human races that look the same.
    It can also be that oure form for evolution is the most common


     
  7. Myaha

    Myaha Jedi Padawan star 4

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    Basic isn't the human language...
    it's a hodgepodge out of Old Corellian, Old Duro and quite a few other tongues spoken by the first species that build up the goverment that would later become the Old Republic
     
  8. Darth_MacDaddy

    Darth_MacDaddy Jedi Padawan star 4

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    Am I correct to say that the Empire is primarily comprised of humans because they see other species as inferior? I got this idea from the Han Solo Trilogy.
     
  9. Myaha

    Myaha Jedi Padawan star 4

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    of course... Palpy is highly xenophob and only employes alien slaves or underlings which he thinks capable of serving him well...
    the Empire is just a little bunch of Nazis :D
     
  10. Iron_Fist

    Iron_Fist Jedi Knight star 5

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    Humans are the most common race, and they have "spread like a disease" across the galaxy. However, on specific worlds, different races have evoloved due to the different conditions, eg. the Givin evolved on Yag'Dhul to cope with the horrible condiotions there, where the gravitic forces from its moons would at times render parts of the surface without atmosphere. So the Givin can survive for a limited amount of time in no atmosphere.
     
  11. Emi-Yan_Tetu

    Emi-Yan_Tetu Jedi Youngling star 2

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    Someone made an interesting post on another board mentioning the fact that, other than, Dooku, the Seperatists, as depicted in AOTC, consist entirely of alien races.

    Will Palpatine use this to alienate the alien species of the Star Wars galaxy?

    Perhaps the human based Empire will rise to dominance like the Germans did in Europe in World War II... not necessarily because they were significantly more advanced but just becuase they were b******s.

    Do you see the lack of alien species in the Rebel Alliance in ANH and TESB as something of a plot hole?
     
  12. JediConspiracy

    JediConspiracy Jedi Youngling

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    Could it be that the reason we see so many humans is that the story happens to follow human characters? Maybe if the story were about another race we would see much more of that race.

    Naw it must be a plot hole :eek:
     
  13. ObidioJuan

    ObidioJuan Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    Well maybe the Rebell Alliance was started with refugees from Alderan and Naboo. These planets being mostly of 'human' appearance led to only humans?

    It's a small detail. We did have Chewie and Yoda in ANH and ESB. And a bunch of aliens in the background. And in ROTJ we had even more aliens in more predominant roles.

     
  14. Aftermath

    Aftermath Jedi Youngling star 2

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    There are so many humans in the OT-era because extras were cheaper than costumes :) I'm sure if Lucas had the technology he has now when he was making the OT, there would have been a healthier alien population in the trilogy.

    As for an in-Saga explination: humans are homless weeds full of wanderlust. They don't seem to have a homeworld, can thrive under diverse climates, and just enjoy nothing more than expanding their territory.
     
  15. effortless_skill

    effortless_skill Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    i dont see humans as the more powerful race i think they are the weaker race its evident by looking at the jedi they are more alien jedi than human on the concuil and in the order other than being a jedi humans kinda dont do anything special ,

    and there is no such thing as human langauge in star wars because i have seen many human looking chracters speak foreign toungue as their natural language look at anakin look at jango,

    you can tell humans are weak cause look at what anakin said he was the only human to pod race ,that is a statment in itself.

    also admiral ackbar leader of the rebel fleet was not human .

    like some one said it was cheaper to have more of them in the ot but through out the saga humans have been the minority
     
  16. vw_jedi

    vw_jedi Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    effortless- you say it is "evident" that humans are the weaker race?

    well i think you are missing something. humans formed the entire empire which ruled the entire galaxy for over 20 years. until the rebellion which was also mostly human defeated it.

    the only thing that is evident in the series is that humans seem to be the catalist for every major event in the GFFA.
     
  17. Spike_Spiegel

    Spike_Spiegel Former FF Administrator Former Saga Mod star 6 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    My "explanation" for this is that maybe humans have the biggest birth rate of the Galaxy. Thats why they are more numerous than anybody else.
     
  18. slimybug

    slimybug Jedi Grand Master star 5

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    Someone said that the human language, or 'Basic" was the basic language of the government. Sorry, but as someone else said, it's not the human language. You just think it is because it's our language here in the real world. Well, it's called English, and there's no England in the GFFA either. Basic is just the language that they use in the senate to understand eachother, and the language thatthe majority of people in the galaxy speak. People who do not should be at least fluent in it so they can speack with a person who speacks another language, because everyone speaks basic.

    As for hte human thing, I think there are tons of species everrywhere in the galaxy, but each one is small numbers, because each one comes from their owns specific homeworld. But humas are very abundant, like, I'm guessing their population matches half of the population of every other species in thae galaxy combined. I think that whereas all other species come from one homeworld, humans are spead througout the galaxy on tons of planets. The Emperor was like Hitler in that he wanted humans to be the dominant species, and persecuted other alien species. That's why there are so many aliens in the rebellion.
     
  19. vw_jedi

    vw_jedi Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    I think that whereas all other species come from one homeworld, humans are spead througout the galaxy on tons of planets. The Emperor was like Hitler in that he wanted humans to be the dominant species, and persecuted other alien species. That's why there are so many aliens in the rebellion.

    no offence but i can only think of 4 alien races being in the rebellion in the SW movies.

    1- bothans, whom we don't even see, but they are mentioned.

    2-mon calamari, whom we don't see until ROTJ.

    3-Wookies, or should i say wookie because there's only chewbacca.

    4-sulustans, again who we only see one of.

    now i know if you read EU you hear of many alien races in the rebellion. but if you go by the movies i think it's pretty clear that the vast majority of the rebellion is made up of humans.

    if i missedany species someone list it.

    VW
     
  20. ObidioJuan

    ObidioJuan Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    And come to think about it. Everytime we are introduced to a seedy place or scum, we have tons of aliens.

    Cantina in Mos Eisley
    Jabba's Palace/Barge
    Sand People and Jawas
    Bounty-Hunters (Boba being the exception but only after we saw AOTC and saw that he was actualy human)
    Outlander saloon in AOTC

    It seems to me that Aliens are mostly the GFFA scum.
     
  21. That_Wascally_Droid

    That_Wascally_Droid Jedi Knight star 6

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    Where humans originated from...
    Hmmm...
    Well let's use the process of elimination and logical guesswork.

    Tatooine?
    Even though both science and religeon state that humans came from rather hot climates (africa, middle eastern areas), I think Tatooine would be a bit too parched for humans to naturally thrive on. Ecidence of this is seen from the fact that aliens are extremely populant on it, and the fact that they have to farm moisture. Not ideal enviorments for humans. I'll go out on a limb and say Jawas and Tuskens are the indigenous people.

    Fourth Yavin Moon?
    Seeing as the rebels thought it would be a good place to hide and the Empire never thought of checking it, I'm guessing it wasnt very populated. Unless humans originated there and then left it, I'm gonna say no. Plus, the temples were of alien design accoarding to Lucas himself.

    Hoth?
    I'd say this is a fairly obvious 'no' :p
    It seems to be Wampa land.

    Bespin?
    Unless places like cloud city were formed naturally... Which they weren't ;)

    Endor?
    Ewoks seem to be the master race here. No evidence of earlier human settlings.

    Naboo?
    Possibly. But I'm going to go out on a limb here and say 'no'. Gungans refer to them as the 'outsiders'. Now, while this doesn't exlude the possibility of humans coming from here, I'm going to guess that humans colonized Naboo and met the Gungans sometime later, and the civilations didn't quite mesh too well ;)
    I'm going to say Gungans are the indigenous people of Naboo.

    Coruscant?
    Quite possibly. Earth itself could one day in the extreme far future look much like it seing as humans seem to think they have to populate everywhere they possibly can. The only evidence that states otherwise is an EU poem for Shadows of the Empire and I'm not counting EU here. However, seeing as how completely populated with so many diverse cultures Coruscant is, it's impossible to tell who was first, even though the buildings seem very much of human design. Still, if humans came from there, why aren't they called Coruscantians?


    Kamino?
    Not likely unless they migrated generations ago when the planet flooded. Judging from their namesake, I'm going to (safely) assume Kamino belongs to (gasp) the Kaminoans.

    Geonosis?
    Unless it's an apocolypse scenario where the humans left and bugs took over the world... Geonosis goes to (suprise) the Geonosians.

    Alderaan?
    We haven't officially seen yet. But from early Mc Quarie drawings (influenced by Lucas) it says Alderaan was colonized by humans. Human from Alderaan are still called humans anyway instead of Alderaanians.

    Corellia?
    We haven't even seen. Plus, even if you count the EU, it was artificially made anyway. But Han has been referred to as a Corellian and made reference to 'big Corellian ships'.

    So, basically we're no closer to solving the puzzle now than we were earlier :p
    But our to best in-movie guesses would be Naboo or Coruscant. Or an unseen planet called Humania ;)

    I'll admit though, that assuming all species are named after their planet is faulty. I mean, wookies apparently aren't called Kashyyykians, nor Ewoks Endorians, nor Jawas/Tuskens Tatooinians.
    So basically I just shot down my whole Coruscantian and Humania arguments :p
     
  22. Myaha

    Myaha Jedi Padawan star 4

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    I would say the human homeworld is Yu... ahm...Coruscant.
    Dha Werda Verda never says that the Taung are not humans... or is it?
     
  23. KiAdiMonday

    KiAdiMonday Jedi Youngling star 2

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    no offence but i can only think of 4 alien races being in the rebellion in the SW movies.

    1- bothans, whom we don't even see, but they are mentioned.

    2-mon calamari, whom we don't see until ROTJ.

    3-Wookies, or should i say wookie because there's only chewbacca.

    4-sulustans, again who we only see one of.


    Don't forget the Prune Faces in the rebel briefing session

    Corran -

    An other thing is that it might be that there are diffrent human races that look the same.

    Amazingly unlikely. The chances of this are vanishingly small.

    It can also be that oure form for evolution is the most common

    No such thing as our form of evolution. Evolution is a random process selecting the fittest/best adapted to survive/breed. While this may lead to many 'humanoid' ie bipedal species it wont lead to lots of independently evolving humans (Leave that nonsense to Trek).

    As I see it others have already got it right. Humans are simply the species that has spread to other worlds the most. The others all seem to stick mainly to their homeworlds.
     
  24. RogueWompRat

    RogueWompRat Jedi Youngling star 4

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    Given the sheer amout of them everywhere, humans, with their high birthrate and wanderlust, seem to comprise a lage percentage of the sapient galactic biomass as a whole. And the rebels we see in ANH and ESB were Alderaanians.
     
  25. Tukafo

    Tukafo Jedi Padawan star 4

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    A great advantage for the Humans is of course that the GFFA has the amazing and very practical advantage that every planet and moon has exactly 1g gravity and exactly the right amount of oxygen in the air :)

    I disagree about Hoth being Wampa land. We see that Wampas die after a few hours in the cold (faster than humans would) so it's impossible that the Wampas originate from Hoth.

    EDIT: Sorry, my mistake. I mixed up Wampas and Tauntauns. The Wampas are of course from Hoth
     
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