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I didn't get a job---because I'm white.

Discussion in 'Archive: Your Jedi Council Community' started by LeeKenobi, Dec 1, 2004.

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  1. LeeKenobi

    LeeKenobi Jedi Knight star 6

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    Man, this whole "Affirmative Action" thing needs to be scrapped.


    I applied for a job as a bank teller--took the teller's test and everything. The bank was impressed with my score, and decided that they wanted me to work for them--eventually.

    I got put on a waiting list, and am still on that list.



    Yesterday, I found out why I was put on a list: because, according to my friend who works at said bank "we have to have a certain number of minorities".

    They freakin need a quota! That's illegal (Supreme Court case Bakke vs. UCLA). I get passed on a job because I'm white. So I am a victim of racism. Ha. Funny. :rolleyes:
     
  2. Yoda_yo_mama

    Yoda_yo_mama Jedi Knight star 5

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    Just paint your self black. Kinda like Soul Man.

     
  3. JediMaster22

    JediMaster22 Jedi Knight star 8

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    Yeah, that's really UNfair if it IS the reason!

    The action DOES need to be scrapped, if that's so.

    I am a minority, myself, but if you are qualified you should get the job.

    Reverse racism against whites is just as bad as racism against Minorities.
     
  4. starwarsagent

    starwarsagent Jedi Youngling star 5

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    Yesterday, I found out why I was put on a list: because, according to my friend who works at said bank "we have to have a certain number of minorities".

    They freakin need a quota! That's illegal (Supreme Court case Bakke vs. UCLA). I get passed on a job because I'm white. So I am a victim of racism. Ha. Funny.


    YOU ARE A VICTIM OF EQUALITY AND FAIRNESS. GAWD!
    you didnt get the job because they already had too many white employees at the bank, its called diversity. and it helps business. but if you want to get a white job apply for a police officer,they hire white guys all the time.

    but if you look at the statistics, wich im sure you havent. all companies have 80% caucasians. blacks, arabs, mexicans, asians are still the minority and they are the ones getting screwed. they should SUE YOU BECAUSE YOU ARE THE KIND OF PERSON WHO IS TAKING AWAY THEIR OPPORTUNITIES BY APPLYING FOR THE JOB IN THE FIRST PLACE.

    personally, I think you didnt get hired because you have an arrogant attitude and a bad character. I recall you being the one racist against fat people. who would hire you?


    not me.
     
  5. darthtenbiscuits

    darthtenbiscuits Jedi Grand Master star 7

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    I wasn't aware that obesity was classified as a race. [face_thinking]
     
  6. JediMaster22

    JediMaster22 Jedi Knight star 8

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    I am not sure about LeeKenobi's arrogance and attitude, dude (becareful what you say about other members if you are unsure).

    But I think that a Company shouldn't discriminate against minorities at the same time it doesn't discriminate white people either. It shouldn't discriminate ANY body, period. If one is qualified, he/she deserves a JOB, regardless of the skin color. If there are TOO many applicants, decide on their skill/experience level rather than color.
     
  7. Dolphin_Jedi

    Dolphin_Jedi Jedi Youngling star 1

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    And Neo-Segregation continues.

    This is the blight of multiculturalism.
     
  8. starwarsagent

    starwarsagent Jedi Youngling star 5

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    I am not sure about LeeKenobi's arrogance and attitude, dude (becareful what you say about other members if you are unsure).


    JM my respects to you. you are a nice guy.
    but I know this guy, he has been around. I mean this is the guy who wants to tax fat people and doesnt believe in democracy. he voted for BUsh. I mean come on you dont have to be jesus to figure a person out. clearly this thread is bogus and its just another way to troll. the whole story seems bogus, how could he go back the next day and his friend, tell him that? right. if he is going to make up stories, he should at least make them believeable. I am not mistaken when I say that I think(note the word think) i think that the one racist here is lee. and thats only an observation, not an accusation.

     
  9. malkieD2

    malkieD2 Ex-Manager and RSA star 7 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    be nice people, don't make me have to moderate this thread

    "Affirmative Action" does happen, and it is real. It's well known that the white male aged 20 to 30 is the single most discriminated group in the world.
     
  10. JediHobbit

    JediHobbit Jedi Master star 5

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    *agrees with malkie*
     
  11. Dolphin_Jedi

    Dolphin_Jedi Jedi Youngling star 1

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    I agree.

    Next are we fellow females!

    We should all be housewives, damnit! ;)
     
  12. JediMaster22

    JediMaster22 Jedi Knight star 8

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    Many minorities just have LESS experience, skills, and even positive working attitude, and I notice that often and I am disgusted as a minority myself that companies hire Impotent people like that. Though, I am NOT gonna say this as if it's generally this way. I just hope a company makes good decision and CAN hire people KNOW what they are doing without ANY bias, whatsoever. Even if that ends up 90% White workforce, it's still fair, if only 10% of minority applicaants are qualified.

    The sad thing is, racism will always play a part in job place and especially in people's mind.

    You never know when you see a workplace with 9 whites and only 1 black/minority. Some people automatically assumes it's discrimating against minorities. But it could totally really be something that white applicants are MORE experienced than Minority applicants. How would you know unless you are the person doing the hiring?


     
  13. Dolphin_Jedi

    Dolphin_Jedi Jedi Youngling star 1

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    It should be the best person for the job. PERIOD.

    No matter sex, age, religion, race.
     
  14. malkieD2

    malkieD2 Ex-Manager and RSA star 7 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    Many minorities just have LESS experience, skills, and even positive working attitude

    you can't say that - it's a gross generalisation

    It should be the best person for the job. PERIOD.

    absolutely, but frequently it isn't the best candidate becasue companies have quota's to meet.

    What do *you* suggest should be done about it ?
     
  15. JediMaster22

    JediMaster22 Jedi Knight star 8

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    >you can't say that - it's a gross generalisation <

    Please read what I said after that "Though, I am NOT gonna say this as if it's generally this way." which means I Agree with you!
     
  16. Dolphin_Jedi

    Dolphin_Jedi Jedi Youngling star 1

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    There should be no quota's at all... as I said, it should be the best person for the job.
     
  17. DarthFuneral

    DarthFuneral Jedi Youngling star 1

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    It should be the best person for the job. PERIOD.

    No matter sex, age, religion, race.


    I agree, but it is easy to say this because it doesn't take into account the fact that minorities do not have the same opportunities in education, social environment, etc. More money needs to be put into inner-city education. Hell, even education on the national level. Empowering the people with knowledge is the only way we can shed these dark remnants of our past. And besides, I don't think Lee not getting a job will EVER make-up for 300 years of slavery.


     
  18. Jedi_Satimber

    Jedi_Satimber Jedi Knight star 8

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    welcome to the good olde US of A.


    My dad suffered from this as well...back in 1990 when we moved to California
     
  19. starwarsagent

    starwarsagent Jedi Youngling star 5

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    Hi malkie. good to hear from u.

    it shouldnt be about race. thats exactly what I been saying. but lee has made it about race. all his comments so far have been negative towards minorities.

    you dont have to be genius to realize the truth.

    I once worked for a very huge company here in california. 90% of its employees were white. I NEVER, EVER SAW A MIDDLE EASTERN PERSON ON THE HALLWAYS OR THE ELEVATORS. EVER. once in a while I would see a black guy in the office. but that was about it. if thats not racism what is it? i know lots of smart minorities, and they can do a better job than any caucasian men.


    also I noticed that banks usually hire pretty girls. you never ever see an ugly girl at a bank or at a store like Macy's selling makeup.


    sadly, our society has gone to the dogs, classifying every race into every job.

    mexicans= laborers, drivers
    whites=office, CEO's
    blacks=law enforcement, Bouncers,military.
    asians=healthcare,nurses.
    arabs=taxi, liquor store.

    its sad that race has to do with job qualifications but that comes from people like lee, that complain and want all the jobs to have caucasians working for them.
     
  20. GIMER

    GIMER Manager Emeritus star 6 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    Unfortunately, companies have to do this or the NAACP makes a big deal out of things.
    If he is qualified, he should get the job. He shouldn't have to wait until they hire a black person just because they have a quota.

    Equal opportunity should be just that: no meddling with quotas, but making sure that the hiring process takes into account only the qualifications for the job and nothing to do with race.

    If they hire the next person just because they are black, then that is worse discrimination than not hiring a person who is black because they are not as qualified, or didn't get there first.

    Maybe the first round of applicants should be 'blind' so that they only look at the qualifications of the person. No name on the form (that could give race away sometimes) no interview until they have picked their group. Then an 'e-mail' interview or something like that where the employer can give questions and get reponses back.
    Then they could finally bring in their group of finalist, being color blind up until then.

    You would also need to make sure that your hiring 'panel' included members that were not likely to be biased.
     
  21. JediMaster22

    JediMaster22 Jedi Knight star 8

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    >sadly, our society has gone to the dogs, classifying every race into every job.

    mexicans= laborers, drivers
    whites=office, CEO's
    blacks=law enforcement, Bouncers,military.
    asians=healthcare,nurses.
    arabs=taxi, liquor store.
    <

    According to a publication, or you?


    And, please give Lee a fair chance to respond to your personal attacks, homeless_jedi.
     
  22. starwarsagent

    starwarsagent Jedi Youngling star 5

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    gimer. maybe they needed a black guy at the bank? ever think of that?

    maybe they have a staff of 30 people and 29 of them are white. so they want to hire a black guy. WHO CARES!. diversity is better otherwise the bank would look racist. wich they are but dont want to show. I would hate to be that black guy, he's the black sheep.


    during my experiences I've seen everything. this doesnt surprise me one bit.
     
  23. malkieD2

    malkieD2 Ex-Manager and RSA star 7 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    diversity is better otherwise the bank would look racist.

    but that *is* the problem - the companies employ a certain number of minorities so that they don't appear racist.
     
  24. youngvader

    youngvader Jedi Knight star 5

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    There has been a lot of racism towards black people and other minorities. The problem is, now with the pc crap, they went too far the other way. So if you are a white male with no handicap, you might not get some job because of quotas. But if you are a black handicaped women, you'll find a job very quickly.
     
  25. GIMER

    GIMER Manager Emeritus star 6 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    which proves that they ARE racist by hiring a black guy.

    Why would they NEED a black guy? Race isn't something you need. It's not supposed to matter - remember?


    How come there aren't more chinese football players? Shouldn't they have a quota too?
     
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