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I sense the hand of the Bene Gesserit...

Discussion in 'Literature' started by SlackJawedJedi, Apr 5, 2009.

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  1. SlackJawedJedi

    SlackJawedJedi Jedi Padawan star 4

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    No, seriously. I think it only occured to me with the recent developments in the Legacy storyline, but there is a bit of a tendency amongst Star Wars authors to interbreed their protagonists with protagonists from other stories... creating an extended family of heroes, if you will. I mean, yes, Skywalker and Solo are the obvious examples, but following the genology a bit, we have characters bearing the genes of Skywalker, Solo, Antilles, Fel, Vos and Djo. As if yet, of course, the link between Vos and Skywalker is familiral as opposed to genetic, but give them time. Mostly, this seems to be breeding for Force power, but with Djo, Organa, Fel and Solo (sort of ), we also get nobility, as well as a host of other talents. Obviously, this can mean only one thing: an ancient breeding program with the intent of producing a ruling race of Force-powered supermen.

    ...

    But yeah, something that just struck me. Make of that what you will.
     
  2. RebelJoseWales

    RebelJoseWales Jedi Master star 3

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    Was it something of a Targaryenistic nature? Possibly supported by the actions of two of the Big Three?
     
  3. SlackJawedJedi

    SlackJawedJedi Jedi Padawan star 4

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    Not quite. Thus far, they all seem to have avoided actual inbreeding, but to create their ultimate super-men, it's an inevitable step at some point. Maybe they can space the breeding program out a bit by breeding successive generations with other prominent bloodlines, like the Horns, perhaps, or some lingering traces of the Qel-Dromas. Of course, purity will become important once the program reaches it's end product. Perhaps they will have designated breeding partners, perhaps they shall keep it in the family. Only the master manipulators know their final plans. Possibly, there will be giant human/sandworm hyprid God-Emperors. With Lightsabres.
     
  4. Zorrixor

    Zorrixor Chosen One star 6

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    This thread is wrong on so many levels... [face_plain]

    That said... it did come close in ESB with that kiss between Luke and Leia. :p

    In Empire's End, Han presumably was making up for interfering with the creation of a second Chosen One to defeat the Sith by killing Palpatine himself and setting things right.
     
  5. CeiranHarmony

    CeiranHarmony Force Ghost star 5

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    I always thought Jaina and Jacen are meant for each other [face_blush]

    so that night between Cade and Marasiah (misscolored Legacy issue) was no coincidence but a hint? [face_laugh] :p they just didn´t want to spoil it yet and declared it an "error" *cough cough*
     
  6. Excellence

    Excellence Jedi Knight star 7

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    I don't think fans would Exprove of introducing Targaryenism to star wars... [face_worried]
     
  7. Xicer

    Xicer Jedi Padawan star 4

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    I like this idea. :D

    Ya know, Jacen and Jaina always kinda reminded me of Leto and Ghanima. Of course in one the brother turned Sith and in the other the brother turned into a semi-immortal Human/Sandworm hybrid. :p I think it would be very interesting to see a breeding program set up for the Skywalkers to bring about a new Kwisatz Haderach (or rather, Chosen One). Given the vast amount of Sith in the Legacy era and the miniscule number of Jedi left, it's gonna take another Chosen One to take them down. And Cade certainly isn't him. I honestly wouldn't be surprised if a faction of the remaining Jedi or some third party tried to set up a breeding program for Cade, knowing how the previous Chosen One took down the Sith. The Jedi aren't proactive but it would make for a very interesting storyline if a splinter group formed that focused on bringing another Chosen One into the galaxy. Perhaps the upcoming Tatooine storyline will give us some answers.[face_thinking]

    Now all we need is a Kyle Katarn ghola and I'll be happy. :p
     
  8. BobaMatt

    BobaMatt TFN EU Staff star 7 VIP

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    Exactly. They didn't account for the Kwisatz Haderach arriving a generation early.
     
  9. Ulicus

    Ulicus Lapsed Moderator star 7 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    This reminds of Trip's theory regarding Cade.
     
  10. BobaMatt

    BobaMatt TFN EU Staff star 7 VIP

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    Are you referring to the theory that arose around the time of Legacy's announcement, that it's the job of the Skywalker bloodline and those pledged to it to serve as the stewards of the Force?
     
  11. blackmyron

    blackmyron Chosen One star 7

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    I think you're really sensing the hand of KJA...
     
  12. Charlemagne19

    Charlemagne19 Chosen One star 8

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    Introducing?

    [image=http://mentalfloss.cachefly.net/wp-content/uploads/2007/08/435_leia_luke_kiss.jpg]

    I'd like to posit forth the theory that the reason that Anakin Solo was stronger than Jacen and Jaina in the Force is that he was actually Luke's son.

    It would explain so much!

    Then again, when reading about Luke and Leia, I personally prefer that Obi Wan just wanted to screw with Luke and sink all romantic aspirations.
     
  13. Ulicus

    Ulicus Lapsed Moderator star 7 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    Would you, now? :p
     
  14. RebelJoseWales

    RebelJoseWales Jedi Master star 3

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    That would also explain why Leia remembers her mother. The real Leia died, and Organa had/adopted another girl who happened to be Force sensitive...

    Alternatively, that was the real Leia, and when Obi Wan died, he decided that if he couldn't have her, no one else could. [face_mischief]
     
  15. Ulicus

    Ulicus Lapsed Moderator star 7 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    The whole way things went down in RotS regarding Padme/Leia/Bail was pretty atrocious.

    It would have been better for Lucas to end Padme's story in RotS with Padme taking (the unnamed in RotS) Leia and going into hiding, saying nothing else about it. That'd have been simple and kept everything consistant.

    It'd have also allowed for the "omg Leia is my sister!" revelation to remain a surprise in a chronological viewing.
     
  16. CeiranHarmony

    CeiranHarmony Force Ghost star 5

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    so when Ben is born by Mara... would that suggest Anakin/Mara from the Marakin theory is true and Ben is the Son of Anakin, Grandson of Luke actually? :p
     
  17. Leto II

    Leto II Jedi Padawan star 6

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    Throughout the series, the primary goal of the Bene Gesserit seems to be survival, pure and simple. They're much like the Spacing Guild, in that their main survival strategy is to submit to other powers, rather than take power for themselves. Unlike the Guild, which did so out of fear, the Bene Gesserit chose this purposefully. Their main objective throughout most of the Dune novels is thus to attempt to maintain the status quo of existing power structures friendly to the Bene Gesserit.

    Unfortunately for this strategy, there no longer is any stable power structure to peacefully submit TO by the time of Heretics of Dune.

    To this day, I hold that the BG used much of their energies to hold onto, and, when possible, increase their power. The Sisterhood most certainly didn't abhor power; they were simply wary of the use of it -- they recognized that using force always creates an opposing force that will ultimately overcome it. That's why they whenever possible preferred to manipulate and work through middle-men, and what they could not do as much as they'd like in the later books. That doesn't change the fact that they were holding the reins, though.

    Sure, the BG weren't using power for the fun of it, for their own selfish goals. I totally agree that they had a vision, ideals they tried to achieve. So did the Communists, however. The Bene Gesserit believed that they know what's best for humanity, and that therefore they should be in control. Much like the Sith.

    Or at least survive...
     
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