I think I solved the Anakin/Vader voice problem

Ok, I know the idea of why Anakin as Vader has a deeper voice then he did in Episode II has been speculated on other boards. But I think I solved it...

I quote this from the New Book Star Wars: The Approaching Storm...Obi-Wan talking to Anakin...

"Something else intresting you yourself might not have noticed. When you sing, your voice drops consederably."

"I did notice that Master." Anakin smiled and shrugged diffidently. "I guess it's still changing."

The fact that he still is maturing, and when he becomes Vader, his suit makes it a deeper voice.

Let's here some feedback here, please...

 

Jon, I hope this is a j/k post...

IT'S A SYNTHESIZER BUILT INTO HIS HELMET TO MAKE HIM SOUND MORE INTIMIDATING!!!

Plus, after he got royally ****ed up, he could barely breathe or talk loud... (Remember when he talked to Luke w/o his helmet, i.e. "You were right... you were right") The synthesizer helps to project his voice because he's so sickly.

It's most definitely a synthesizer that makes his voice deeper...

 

I'm with Random on this one. It's a synthesizer to project/enhance his voice. Nothing more. Anything that was said/done in the books are not cannon and don't matter to Lucas.

 

While there is going to be some change in Hayden/Anakin's voice between now...and when we see him as Shaw/Anakin in ROTJ, what you hear when Darth Vader speaks is a result of the mask he wears to breath (and make himself sound more intimidating)

Anything that was said/done in the books are not cannon and don't matter to Lucas Don't be so sure, while GL may not contribute DIRECTLY to the writing of EU books; they do have to get approval from people at Lucasfilm Licensing. And if there were a major continuity error, it would be changed. They have said (regarding everything from games to books) everything is checked so as to not be in conflict with GL's story for the movies. If you want an example of this policy, watch the preview for "Jedi Starfighter" on the TPM DVD

Besides, men's voices changing during puberty is a universal human trait...and that includes the SW universe.

 

"And if there were a major continuity error, it would be changed."

I could be wrong... but there was this minor character in the trilogy named BOBA FETT who was allegedly Jaster Mareel before taking on the Fett moniker. Yeah, Lucas Licensing can say AFTER THE FACT THAT EPISODE 2 WAS CREATED (I picture an adolescent trying to be quick witted to his or her parents in an attempt to fudge the truth so as not to get punished): "Um, yeah, um, that Boba Fett guy... yeah, he um, he's not Jaster Mareel, um, see, what happened is, is... their personal histories, like, they got mixed up, yeah, that's it... they got mixed up."

The whole Jaster Mareel/Boba Fett thing seems to be grasping for straws to me. Same thing w/ Mace's 2nd saber and the whole Convergence of Fealty thing. Oh well, the ONLY good thing to come out of EU was Aayla

Back to the original issue... Vader's voice has nothing to do with Anakin's voice at all... he doesn't just mature and deepen his voice once he becomes known as Vader, he just has the helmet w/ synthesizer on so he can breathe/speak/scare the crap out of Imperial officers that alters his voice. If you watch the trilogy, you can notice as Vader modifies his suit externally, he also modifies his voice, making it deeper in each of the movies. (In ANH it's a lot higher pitched than ESB, same thing with ESB to ROTJ.)

 

I think it is the helmet thing. I mean I thought all guys voices change when they grow up and Anakin is still growing and none of the other guys in the movie had such a deep voice.



Plus did you just start reading AS. I read that a long time ago. I thought that line was to show some humor between the two of them, not hint at the voice question.

 

Krash - to provide a counterpoint, look up the origins of the Death Star in the EU books. Then re-watch Episode 2. You'll see why I say GL could care less about the EU.

 

Everyone does realize that this voice thing is a completely moot point right? Think about ROTJ, what did Anakin sound like when Luke took the helmet off? Wow, talk about a dead issue. End of list.

-b-

 

"when we see him as Shaw/Anakin in ROTJ" Way ahead of ya brother...the discussion over Vader's "voice" is irrelavent; much like the voice of the Wizard of Oz "Pay no attention to the man behind the curtain" it's all about SOUNDING intimidating.

Not many people know about Vader's more light-hearted side, when Imperial interns adjusted Vader's voice as a joke, to sound like Donald Duck It's really funny, until Vader wondered why all the stormtroopers were laughing...and force-choked the entire bunch

"I could be wrong...(yes, you could) but there was this minor character(technically...he was) in the trilogy named BOBA FETT who was allegedly Jaster Mareel before taking on the Fett moniker. Yeah, Lucas Licensing can say AFTER THE FACT THAT EPISODE 2 WAS CREATED

Much like some of your posts, the story of Boba Fett (both on-screen/EU and in relation to each other) may never have any clear-cut answers. However, one of the more interesting things about the Boba/Jaster Mareel debate is that there may never be any clear-cut answers. I think the new "Essential Guide to Characters" did a great job explaining the fact that young Boba may have assumed the identity of his father's mentor, to avoid detection as being a clone. Meanwhile, some people use little things like this to point their finger at GL and Lucasfilm and say "ha, you know more about SW then you do because..." blah, blah you know the rest. Being someone with the same nickname as my father (Krash) I know what it is like to have a bit of an allias.

GrnJalera, I have thought about the relationship between what is known about about the origins of DS, and that one shot in AOTC (I thought of that the 1st time I saw it). So far, there hasn't been anything other then designs for the "ultimate weapon" seen in AOTC. And from what I know reading EU, Maw Instellation build the first(?) working prototype (that anyone knows of) on such a large scale. Funny, isn't it, that the Republic Gunship turrets use a small version of the DS superlaser? How could that be...if Dooku and the Seperatists are keep this a secret? We'll see!

 

"I could be wrong...(yes, you could) but there was this minor character(technically...he was) in the trilogy named BOBA FETT who was allegedly Jaster Mareel before taking on the Fett moniker. Yeah, Lucas Licensing can say AFTER THE FACT THAT EPISODE 2 WAS CREATED"

I intentionally chose this language Krash to be sarcastic (I consider a major character in the SW saga due to his importance during the Clone Wars and taking on his father's name). And no, I can't be wrong...

 

What "major importance" during the Clone Wars?
*he was given to Jango as payment, for being the source of DNA to make the clonetrooper.

*he stood by, watching as his dad got the world's worst haircut from Mace Windu.

*the rest is unknown, and all we know about his after the Clone Wars is that he followed in his father's footsteps and became a bounty hunter. Assuming the name of Jaster Mareel, POSSIBLY to avoid detection as a clone.

Aside from that little bit on the Kamino landing platform, when he fired the guns at Obi-Wan (which was really cool) Boba didn't do anything during the clone wars...that ANYONE KNOWS OF (yet).

 

I'm sure Boba has some importance in Episode 3, that's what I was alluding to. He's ONLY THE ONLY CHARACTER TO CAUSE A CLIFFHANGER ENDING IN A SW FILM THUSFAR. That's pretty important if you ask me. Plus, with Jango being gone, Boba is the only pure clone left... we don't know if he will play any part in the creation of future clones due to his genetic material.

 

George said that Boba will not play a larger role in Ep 3 then he did in AOTC, so how can he be important in the next movie if he will more then likely not be in it a lot!

 

I don't think Boba Fett was all that important in the OT,either.Yeah,he led Vader to Cloud City,but Vader already had his own men working on that.In a system with 'not much there',they would have most likely come up with Bespin sooner or later.Fett just did it faster.He took Solo to Jabba,but again,any of the other bounty hunters could have done that.

As for Fett's re-insertions into the SE's,well,those were little more than eye candy shots,and had no real purpose story-wise.