"Ian who?" - Padme Amidala

Old Ian sure got the short end of the stick. Not only was he Padme's boyfriend for awhile, but she hooked up with him shortly before becoming Queen at the age of 14. Not only did the Queen dump him without warning, but she refused to talk to him during her coronation.

Meanwhile, our friend Palo hooked up with Padme at the tender age of 12, two years earlier than Ian. They parted ways and he became an artist, and, as one PSA member put it so eloquently last year, Anakin wanted to "gut him like a Tusken", for he caused Padme to be smitten all of twelve years later.

"Your father was telling me about someone named Ian..." - Anakin

"Who's Ian?" - Padme

 

yeah.... damn....

 

I was nearly out of my seat when she was about to talk about her first love. 'Could this be the EU reference we have all been waiting for' I thought as my mouth salivated in anticipation, as my girlfriend looked on totally non-plussed.

Palo!!!! What the hell!

It ruined AotC for me Except for all the other cool stuff!!

 

I was confused at what Anakin had asked her... first love? first kiss? first sex?

Neither the movie, nor the novel, made it at all clear.

I'd assumed that, since she was Queen at 14, that she and Anakin were both as pure as driven snow when they were married and hence the question was first love or first kiss...

 

Wasn't the Ian story in Tales? Making it Infinities?

 

Yes, the one in tales is infinities, so it is not canon. But according to cerasi that doesn't stop it from being in-continuity if some other source decided to refrence it. I think NEGTC refrenced the ian story though, so a version of the story is definetly part of continuity.

 

Yeah, some people probably thought he asked her about sex. It leaves it kind of open, doesn't it?

 

Sturm, where is that excerpt from? Am I to take it that our favorite red headed freckled boy with the 80's hairdo is mentioned in the novelization of AOTC?

~PAd

 

I doubt Padme had sex at 14, see has a strit head.

 

I assumed that they were talking about first kiss as the scene followed Anakin and Padme's first kiss. I thought that since she was obviosly his first, he wanted to know about her first.

 

If the NEGtC references it, the Tales story is canon.

In the early version of the script, Anakin asks something like, "So, has there ever been anyone else?" The movie was just edited to jump ahead in the dialogue.

Sturm, where is that excerpt from? Am I to take it that our favorite red headed freckled boy with the 80's hairdo is mentioned in the novelization of AOTC?

I made up that dialogue as a joke.

 

Well actually the tales story itself isn't canon, but is part of continuity, but because of that annoying little icon, and LFL's policy for tales it remains infinities. It would take a total act of lfl removing the infinitie icon by letter for the original tale for it to be canon. But the refrence itself is canon, it just means that the original version most likely is what happened, but the icon is still in effect. So it's continuity without canonocity.

Even Dan Wallace has said that merely a refrence doesn't add canonocity to the original source of the refrence, sadly.

 

I agree with Lianna and The Dude. Even though it may be considered open ended by some, I didn't think for a second that Anakin and Padme were talking about sex rather than a first kiss.

 

I made up that dialogue as a joke.

oh.

~PAd

 

Not everything has to have it's canonicty decided by the lack of a icon.

Artoo and Threepio's appearance in the "Making of Star Wars" from 1977 has no Infinities icon.

 

Well if it has the infinities icon on it isn't canon. It requires a letter removing the icon to counteract it. Much like gamer 4's status was saved by a letter by cerasi and a letter by wilson, that pointed out that the icon on the cover only pointed to the tales' comics on the inside of the issue and not the total issue.

But if a source doesn't have an infinities icon it is most likely canon, less it's said to be appocryphal(then it's not part of continuity because of secondary terminology.)

Merely refrencing a Tales story doesn't make the original source canon, but it does point to it being part of continuity. But only the refrence itself which doesn't have the infinities icon on it would be canon, not the original source. So while a tales story can be part of continuity it still remains an infinities source of information.

 

Neither does the Muppet Episode.

So, whats really the point of this thread? Palo and Ian. . . what about them?

 

Ian got the shaft. He was with Padme more recently than Palo, and yet Ian gets no mention as a love interest.

 

How does she have a love interest when she's 12 anyway.

What about plato.

 

Ian wasn't Padme's first love.

 

Good point.

 

Where did you find this Ian guy. Who is he? I know Palo.

 

It would have been VERY cool in an EU sense if Ian was mentioned instead of Palo, or even better, it would have been more fun if LFL liaised better, and Palo was used in the Tales story....!!!

 

I am SOOO confused. Will somebody please tell me what is going on? I feel out of it.

I don't think anybody thought they were talking about sex. I think everybody assumed it was her first kiss.