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CT If Darth Vader knew Leia was his daughter, would he have still tortured her?

Discussion in 'Classic Trilogy' started by TragicHeroLover132, Apr 9, 2011.

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  1. TragicHeroLover132

    TragicHeroLover132 Jedi Youngling star 3

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    As Anakin, he was very attached to his loved ones. So, would he have had it in him to torture Leia if he knew she was his daughter?
     
  2. Darth_Pevra

    Darth_Pevra Chosen One star 6

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    Yes. In ANH and TESB he was full-on Sith Lord and this brat of a daughter dared to defy the Empire multiple times.
     
  3. koolkid1455

    koolkid1455 Jedi Youngling

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    No, I don't think he would've. In the 6th, he stopped and ultimately killed the Emperor because the Emperor was torturing Luke. He would've of done the same with Leia.
     
  4. ILuvJarJar

    ILuvJarJar Jedi Grand Master star 6

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    I believe that he still would have since she obviously wasn't even away that she was force sensitive in ESB, therefore not as powerful as Luke.

    So I think that he would have still toutured her to lure Luke to cloud city in ESB. Getting Luke was his ultimate goal at the time, nothing would get in his was, especially Leia whom had little worth to him at the time.
     
  5. GTPodcast

    GTPodcast Jedi Youngling star 1

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    Better question - what do you think Vader would have done to Jabba the Hutt if Jabba had succeeded in killing Luke (either with the Rancor or with the Sarlaac) and Vader ended up hearing about it (which he would have)?
     
  6. ILuvJarJar

    ILuvJarJar Jedi Grand Master star 6

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    Well think about this, Vader kills Admiral Ozzel, along with other officers that serve him for causing minimal errors.

    If Jabba had successfully killed Luke I would imagine that Vader would not only have killed Jabba for putting a major hole through his plans, but he would have went on a rampage in the palace, killing others, similar to his slaughter of the Tuskans in AOTC.
     
  7. halibut

    halibut Ex-Mod star 8 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    What do you mean "if"?
     
  8. ILuvJarJar

    ILuvJarJar Jedi Grand Master star 6

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    I think the OP was referring to ESB when Vader held her in Cloud City as bait to lure Luke to him.
     
  9. halibut

    halibut Ex-Mod star 8 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    I was referring to the fact that I'm one of the minority who believe that Vader knew who Leia was way before the end of ROTJ
     
  10. ILuvJarJar

    ILuvJarJar Jedi Grand Master star 6

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    I thought it was clear when Vader hisses "Your sister" in ROTJ that he had discovered it just then. I know that he was trying to get Luke to fight him, but I really do think that he was pleased discovering about her at that moment and having a back-up for Luke in case he can't turn him.
     
  11. Darth_Furio

    Darth_Furio Chosen One star 8

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    This. Unless the novelizations have a different account. It seems clear that Vader found out about Leia's roots during the duel with Luke in RotJ.
     
  12. halibut

    halibut Ex-Mod star 8 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    It is my belief and it works for me, so :p
     
  13. Darth_Pevra

    Darth_Pevra Chosen One star 6

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    Jabba would die really, really slowly. And I imagine it would've devastated Vader to know his son is dead and his hopes of overthrowing Palpatine and fulfilling his dreams of power were destroyed.
     
  14. mjerome3

    mjerome3 Jedi Knight star 6

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    Vader cut off Luke's hand knowing that he was his son, didn't he? Of course he would have tortured Leia still. She was the enemy and she wasn't on his side.
     
  15. GrandAdmiral_Frank

    GrandAdmiral_Frank Jedi Padawan star 4

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    I believe he would still have tortured her. As far as him not allowing Luke to be tortured, he did. He decided to kill the Emperor before he could kill Luke. When you watch it Vader clearly has time to get up and walk to Palpatine's side and watch his son be electricuted. Then he has time to sit back and have his internal conflict hit the breaking point and finally, thankfully, a decision is made and he is redeemed.

    I think he would have no problem torturing Leia and based off ROTJ I would say he'll let it go as far as about to die.
     
  16. anakinfansince1983

    anakinfansince1983 Skywalker Saga/LFL/YJCC Manager star 10 Staff Member Manager

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    This.

     
  17. DarthIktomi

    DarthIktomi Jedi Padawan star 4

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    Probably. The dark side will make you forget, after all. The better question is, knowing that, why did "The Dark Ranger" (of "Agony in Pink" fame) write a fanfic about it?
     
  18. EstarGuars

    EstarGuars Jedi Padawan star 2

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    My question is, would he let Tarkin rape her?
     
  19. Arawn_Fenn

    Arawn_Fenn Chosen One star 7

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    In exchange for a really cool Sith holocron? Possibly.
     
  20. leiaa

    leiaa Jedi Youngling

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    That´s a tough question actually, but I think he still would have tortured Leia.

    R...J EDIT: removed link
     
  21. Darth_Pevra

    Darth_Pevra Chosen One star 6

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    I don't think Tarkin is a rapist. He's unbelievable evil but he still holds himself to some standards.
    http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/EvenEvilHasStandards
     
  22. EstarGuars

    EstarGuars Jedi Padawan star 2

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    Splinters of the Mid Eye hints that Tarkin did... and seriously, have you seen [image=http://images.wikia.com/starwars/images/6/6c/Epguide319.jpg]this photo? He´s a pedo :p
     
  23. Darth_Pevra

    Darth_Pevra Chosen One star 6

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    [face_thinking] I could make just as good a case that Obi-Wan is a closet-homosexual.
     
  24. CaptainCrunch2007

    CaptainCrunch2007 Jedi Master star 1

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    During ANH, Vader was still a full bore Sith, it took time for him to soften to Luke.

    He wouldn't have cared at all if Leia was his daughter or not, he would have flayed her for the information to the Rebel base.

    At that point, Anakin Skywalker was completely buried under Darth Vader.

     
  25. PMT99

    PMT99 Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    It is the fact that Vader found out that Leia is his daughter that brought about his redemption. Think about it, he knows that the Emperor heard him say this and realizes that if he kills Luke, he'll go after Leia next. Vader couldn't allow that to happen, hence why he died saving Luke's life so I say he won't torture Leia even if he had known that she was his kid by ANH.

    His redemption could've happened much earlier.
     
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