PT If Qui-Gon took orders directly from the force, how didn't he know mind tricks didn't work on Watto?

A small detail and not impossible, but it strikes me as odd. I thought he would be the expert on that. It would seem similar to a professional racer not knowing what MPH means.

 

The Jedi don't know everything about the Galaxy...

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That's not how the Force works. It's not a wiki article that Qui-Gon could access and go, 'Huh, Toydarians are immune to mind tricks, OK so can't do that.'

To use your example, a professional racer may know the basics of MPH, but they're not gonna know every single nook and cranny, every screw, every shaft in every single car in existence. Same principle.

 

1. The Jedi don't take orders from the Force.

2. The Jedi are not aware of what beings are immune to the Jedi Mind Trick, until they attempt to do so and after failing, enter it into the Archives. Qui-Gon was not aware of it. Luke, who had no knowledge of the Hutt species, was unaware as well.

 

I tend to think that the Jedi did know that certain types were 'immune' , but that it would only be a percent and so it would do no good to assume the mind-trick would fail, 'cos you wanna do it with conviction.

 

I don’t think one takes orders directly from the force

 

Jedi aren't automatons that take orders like battle droids from a control ship, and get all their info downloaded into them like Neo learning Karate. They still have to figure things out for themselves and learn from experience. I'd also add, even if Qui-Gon did know Toydarians are immune, he probably thought it was at least worth a try because of the desperation of the situation. I mean, I would imagine they only use it as a last resort in desperate situations.

I would think they hear the Force speaking to them, telling them what to do in a general, big picture sense, but not every little detail.

 

Besides what everyone else has already said, mind tricks have always been known to only work on the weak minded. So Watto’s line doesn’t necessarily mean anything more notable than that Toydarians as a species are predisposed to being strong minded.

 

My last post got me thinking, haha. There might be something to be said about the Droid control ship being destroyed, and the Droids being rendered unable to function - and the Force being thrown out of balance by the Sith, and the Jedi's connection to it thus being weakened.

 

Suppose maybe, just maybe, in their schooling in the Temple(s) Jedi are taught examples of some species on whom Jedi mind tricks do not (typically) work. Even in this case I don't think it's reasonable to assume Qui-Gon would have the memory or power of recall to just know that Toydarians are immune. You know, just on the off-chance he encountered one. Maybe he never had before. From TPM, the only thing we know specifically about Qui-Gon's background outside of the Jedi Order is he had some familiarity with Malastare vis-a-vis podracing.

 

Qui-Gon was still training for being one with the living force, before he could complete his training he died thus he couldn't be a full Jedi Ghost like Yoda and Obi-Wan, instead Qui-Gon then helped them to complete their trainings.

Also that still doesn't mean Qui-Gon didn't know, probably not all Toydarian is resistant to Jedi Mind tricks, so he maybe tried his luck or he thought he perhaps become powerful enough to manipulate even Toydarians.