"If you ever say that again, I'll wash your mouth out with soap!"

I know this has been brought up before, but I couldn't find the old thread and figured there would probably be different opinions on it now. So anywho, what is your guys' (and gals') opinions on swearing in FanFilms? Just something like damn or damnit. Not really all that bad, but some people may still find it offensive, and since this is a family board, I thought it better to ask.

I'm asking this because my current project has some rather swarthy, rebellious characters, and it would just seem kind of weird to have them say "dang" all the time. I already have "blast" written in when I feel "damn" isn't really necessary, but I just wanted to make sure that having that in there wouldn't cripple the film.

 

I have no problem myself with swearing in fanfilms. If you want to get it hosted by TFN, they want you to keep it to a minimum.

When it comes to traditional fanfilms, i think the Star Wars universe doens't have room for much of it. It disconnects me from the fact that this is a different world altogether... i hear someone start letting four letter words go, and the suspension of disbelief starts to droop.

In parody work, do it all you want, just remember who your audience is and remember you have a chance of losing that same audience by doing so.

American Jedi probably would have gotten a lot more publicity if it didn't have to drop the F-bomb at the end of it, but at the same time, would it have been nearly as funny?

It's all whatever you want to do.

-Chris

 

They say damn in the original trilogy. (Only once I think) In ESB, Han said hell, not that that's really a cussword.

 

When they swore in Trooper Clerks, it was incredible funny, but it was all bleeped out. For some reason, I find it funnier when I hear the bleep in the place of a swear.

 

So far I've dropped the F-bomb in both my films. But it's bleeped. I caught a lot of wierd flack for that in Disaster. But, just as many people loved it.

I curse like a sailor in real life. But, I purposely censor my own films for the sake of a broader audience.

My advice to you is, if you want the profanity, but you also want the audience, bleeping will satisfy both.

 

I agree with the whole ting where cursing doesn't fit into the Star Wars universe, but in the case of American jedi, it worked because you weren't expecting it, but it worked perfectly, and the scene wouldn't have worked without that line.

Chris

 

I see your reasoning, but I'm thinking from a Han kind of view point, he says damn, even Obi-Wan said damn. There are no Jedi in this film, mind you, it's all about smugglers and mercenaries, and their just kind of that way. Not major swearing, just a little, and don't you think that bleeping out "damn" would detract from SW more than leaving it in? Think about it, "..follow old Obi-Wan on some damn fool crusade." or, "...follow Obi-Wan on some *BLEEP* fool crusade." I dunno, just seems kind of strange.

 

EDIT: Partially obscured profanity is still not allowed.

Seriously.. IFILMs just has info on it now... where is it.

 

So, don't bleep the word 'damn'.

For the record, in Disaster, the translation for R2-F6 said 'damn', and I purposely left it uncensored.

But, the f-word... You might wanna think about that one.

 

I'd say go ahead, as long as it stays in the PG rating realm. I realize that still gives you alot of lattitude cause you can say alot of cuss words and still be PG, but bounty hunters and mercenaries would probably have saltier language than dignified Jedi Knights and wouldn't be out of place to hear that from a character like that. I dunno- I'd rather hear something made up, like "Blast it" (like ObiWan says in AOTC) or make up something completely original that isn't really a word in our language, but something that viewers can instantly recognize as an insult or a profanity in the Star Wars universe. I just wouldn't want to hear some of the more "objectionable" words being used in a fan film. If I heard too much of that in a fanfilm I'd prolly not watch it again.- but that's just one man's opinion.

 

If you really need an F word you can say "Frack" like they did in Battlestar Galactica. "Shazbot" is also commonly accepted alien swearing. And of course there's the ever popular "poodoo"(or pudu) you know, be creative

 

Sithspit! Stang!

You Hutt's drool bucket!

Nerfherder!

 

In the script I'm writing right now, I've been using things like Drek and Frelling and I may have used Frack at least once... M'not sure. I know I used the word Barve. Damn and Hell I can see in the canon as being believable cos most societies devlop a religion with some concept of hell or damnation. After that, most slang curse words would differ depending on location and society.

What I have a problem believing is that in an entire GALAXY far far away, gritty events of an evil empire wreaking havok... No-one curses at all? No adult situations? THAT disconnects the story for me in a lot of respects.Real people curse and do adult stuff. Real people can't be totally reflected within the boundaries of a PG rating. So yeah, my characters will curse. One's actually kind of foul-mouthed. But they're using otherworldly curses. Not earth ones.

But I won't be using Felgercarb. I always thought that one sounded doofy. ^_^

"I like the gutter. It's warm and you meet the most interesting people there."
-Mudge, 'Spellsinger' by Alan Dean Foster

-WinterRose

 

i'm not a great fan of swearing in films. there are 2 times when i think it is alright.

The first is the swearing makes it funny like American Jedi, but also like (if you have seen it) hear no evil see no evil. At one point the bad girl asks 2 men what there last requests are. the one asks for a kiss and the other asks for a F-word. If he had said it in another way it would not have been as funny. But some jokes don't need it, just because they put the word in the middle of the joke, doesn't mean it is the word that makes it funny.

The other is when it add's to the character. like in resivour dog's. because of the amount of swearing that is in the film, it makes you think of the characters are bad mothers that don't take no crap off nobody.

In your case, if it is a comedy swear and have it dubbed if it set in the real word swear and have a 18/15 version that is undubbed and have a pg version that is dubbed and if it is set in the star wars world...i just wqpouldn't do it at all as it is not a star wars thing. as chris said, it isn't beliveable.

 

I agree that swearing should be bleeped out in fanfilms. but I think that only producers and editors should swear anyway. Nobody else in life should have a need to.

Well, thats my *BLEEP* opinion anyway.

 

"They say damn in the original trilogy. (Only once I think)

My, how wrong you are.

A NEW HOPE

"...might follow old Obi-Wan on some damned fool idealistic crusade..." - Kenobi, to Luke.

"Damn fool I knoew you were gonna say that" - Solo

"...midday or there will be hell to pay." - Solo

"...what the hell are you doing?" - Solo

EMPIRE STRIKES BACK

"Then I'll see you in hell!" - Solo

ATTACK OF THE CLONES (not OT, but still.)

"..cloners. Damned good ones, too." - Dex

 

I don't know. Things like damn, crap, crud, hell, heck, and more polite swears should stay, and not even be bleeped out. And if there is something more harsh like the f-word, you should bleep it out, or don't bother using it (accepted in a parody, but not in the real thing).

And of course, will still have good old sithspit, bantha fodder, slimeball, and others. It would probably be better for star wars characters to use these "star wars galaxy swears".

And remember, if using swears, always use something that somehow may have bin in the star wars galaxy - like don't use "Darn Bill Gates" - he isn't there. (stupid example.)

My opinion.

- -=M=y=s=e=l= f_M=e= -

EDIT: and I changed sithspit. s*itspit

 

My fanfilm will have the derogatory word for a prostitute in it. I've already been told "that's not star wars." But my fanfilm is far from a traditional fanfilm and the word just works in the situation (and I don't care if they said this word in the movies or not, that doesn't mean it's "not star wars"...it's one of the oldes professions in our world, I'm sure it is in SW to and I'm sure they have matching curses for it. And besides, it's just important for the situation (ie calling someone's dead wife a ***** and getting them to lose their temper).

 

I personally think there is no room for cussing in the Star Wars universe. If you aren't trying to go by what George has set up, the I guess cussing is ok. For a true to the Star Wars universes movie, I would only use the word damn. I think using it twice would be the limits, once would be fine.

 

For a true to the Star Wars universes movie, I would only use the word damn.

Actually, based on the Star Wars language George Lucas used, both damn and hell would be usable.

 

Well, think of it this way:

Would Rick McCallum say it? Then don't.

Emperor's black bones!

 

Would Rick McCallum say it? Then don't.

LOL! How True

 

Though I'm not a fan of swearwords like "hell" in Star Wars, cause that's too earthly.

That occurred to me the last time I watched ESB. When Han said "then I'll see you in hell", It sounded a little to earthly. At the same time it made me believe that it was a real world. So I really don't mind the use of hell.

 

Does anyone know where to see American Jedi?...