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Your Taylor Swift Hate is Weird, Actually

Disclaimer: I don't hate Taylor Swift. I don't hate much besides Nazis really.
I am annoyed by Taylor Swift. And on the internet, all too often annoyance is mistaken for hate. Anyway, the above articles have it wrong.

I dislike Taylor Swift for a number of reasons:
- The music is so ****ing generic
- She only sings about herself
- She's huge, which makes me think less of society in general
- The music is so goddamn generic
- I have children and colleagues who like her music, so I've been overexposed, and these songs I hear are all so terribly generic
- It's so generic that I made a game for myself: trying to find out which song she copied this time
- I haven't heard one original musical idea
- How can something so unspecific be so succesful?

And yes:
- All the lyrics are about ex-boyfriends and the boyfriends all suck
- If she sings about her own faults for once (once), it's so sulky that she demands pity
- All of that is wrapped in some super generic music that doesn't have any standout features. At all. Why do people like this?

How about you?
Do you like Taylor Swift (or her music)?
Do you dislike her (or her music)?
Do you not care one way or the other?

 

I'm more of a classical music fan so I really don't care about her one way or the other.

 

Honestly the only time I've had any ill feelings toward her was when I heard about her insane private jet use. There are much worse pop artists on the radio, like Meghan Trainor.

 

the thing that sets taylor swift apart from most other contemporary pop stars, for me, is that i have heard of taylor swift. never listened to her music though.

 

That's about the way I feel. I've heard of her but unless she pops up on Classic FM or BBC Radio 3 I probably won't encounter her music.

 

I'm with tom, it's like, I assume Guy is correct, but when's the last time I listened to a pop music station? If I hadn't just listened to a bunch of cutting edge K-pop because of the mixtape thread I'm not sure I would've heard anything from the last five years that wasn't a weird avant-garde jazz album.

Edit: I do dislike the tendency in internet discourse - and this is enough of an apparently exclusively online phenomenon to call it that - to assume that you can judge vast swaths of a person's character based on exactly one relatively harmless media product. Hell there's only a couple of things in the non-harmless category that's true for and by "a couple" I mostly mean "if their favorite book is Mein Kampf that is probably a bad sign."

 

I don't willingly listen to pop stations. I am sometimes subjected to it at work.

 

Maybe in retrospect Beyoncé did have one of the best videos of all time.

 

I'm not saying you seek it out so much as I'm saying I work in an office where people know how headphones work.

 

I can't wear headphones because I have to listen for people. The music plays over the PA.

 

The first IT job I worked was in a bank and there was piped-in pop music from ceiling speakers. I think most of that was because the data entry people worked on the same floor. We finally cut the wires to 'our' speaker and that took it off the air.

 

I envy everyone of you. She's the world's most popular artist right now, and most here haven't even heard her music (consciously).
I guess that's one reason I like to be here.

Still, you all have heard it. You just don't remember. Because it's so goddamn generic. Which is the problem.

 

I love Taylor Swift. Not every song, and yeah, sometimes I'm listening and have thoughts like "get over yourself" or "systemic homophobia isn't the same as people being mean to you on the internet" or "All Too Well was fine as it was and didn't need to be 10 ****ing minutes long" but she's out there, using her power to call out Spotify and Ticketmaster and some of the other bull**** around the music industry and writing catchy songs.

 

All Too Well is just Fountains Of Wayne's Troubled Times made boring.

 

She has a couple songs that I don't mind but those are from like 10 years ago or so. Other than that I don't really care.

 

I hate Jazz.
And Illinois Nazis.

 

I mean if her music is on I won’t turn it off. Then again I won’t turn off any music.

 

True, if we did the Taylor Swift equivalent of WHAMAGEDDON I wouldn't actually know what I was potentially out for hearing.

 

Yeah I picked "don't care". I do like that Taylor writes her own songs. And I think it's fine for people to enjoy things that are different than my likes.

Some BTS Army really resent Taylor because she gets tons of favoritism on US radio and the charts just because she's a pretty white girl. This is true, but is also not her fault, it's IHeart and Billboard's fault mostly.

So I guess I mildly respect her for being a songwriter (BTS also wrote all their songs except the couple all English ones that have bad lyrics, not coincidentally). I respect that her fans get something out of her music. I get having that experience.

But I mostly don't care. If you like Taylor, cool. If you don't, just don't spend all your time hating on her and we're good (because haters who do this with anything are really weird and toxic).

 

What if you're subjected to it on a daily basis?

 

Sabotage your daughter's music collection?

Would be a bit of a severe response.

 

I find myself defending her from haters at times just because I think she's better than a lot of the haters do. I think her folklore album from a couple of years ago was really terrific. It was really close to being a full-on great album in my opinion; it was just too overstuffed and the law of averages caught up with her. I mean, you have eighteen songs on an album, how many of them are realistically going to be good? If folklore had been a tight ten song record, it would have been a masterpiece.

Like I legit think that cardigan and exile are both really great songs. There's a lot of more interesting stuff going on in the production on that album too. Jack Antonoff and one of the guys from The National (not the main guy) worked on the production on folklore. It's just got a great vibe.

In short, she's variable. She's got some really good songs, even a handful of great ones, among a catalogue that's mostly inoffensive. It doesn't make sense to hate her for that. It also doesn't make sense to say that if you do hate her, it says anything bigger about your personality. But I will defend a solid half of the songs on folklore as being genuinely great and I'll defend about a third of 1989 the same way. I do not find it at all inconceivable that she might one day release an actual masterpiece. She came really close with folklore, just didn't quite have the discipline.

 

tbf i do know the one "trouble" song", mostly from the goat meme.