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Imperial Palace on Coruscant: Different versions, which is the true one?

Discussion in 'Literature' started by CeiranHarmony, Mar 10, 2005.

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  1. CeiranHarmony

    CeiranHarmony Force Ghost star 5

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    There have been several pictures of it floating around the EU and I think upcoming ROTS won´t show it, so:

    Which picture is the true Imperial Palace?

    we have the 2 towered version of the Tie-Fighter games

    we have the Zahntrilogy version, looking quite different, seen in the comic.

    we have multiple descriptions in EU of it, and a concept art of RalphMcQuarrie, depicting it like a gothic cathedral in pyramidelike design.

    and yet another version is selling it as just a pyramid.

    so, which do you believe in, favor, which is the most canon of them and how to bring them all togehter? which is the true one, why so many different ones?

    I see the Imperial palace as all of them.. it is a complex of several buildings that got built over and united to THE ultimate PALACE. a whole Area of coruscant might be built over. the Zahn-version being the closest Palace part facing the Senate building in relative proximity, the Tie-Fighter version being another part, etc. and the Pyramid Mcquarrie structure, gothic cathedral like forming the main structure in the middle.
     
  2. Rogue_Follower

    Rogue_Follower Manager Emeritus star 6 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    Don't forget the DS Ending Jedi Knight one. ;)
     
  3. CeiranHarmony

    CeiranHarmony Force Ghost star 5

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    ah thx, antoher one that is..

    but that one looked much like the Zahnology building!

    and the Mara Jade comic version looked like the gothic cathedral of Mc Quarrie.
     
  4. Fingolfin_Noldor

    Fingolfin_Noldor Jedi Padawan star 4

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    I think they are all the same. One must note that Imperial palace is huge and McQuarrie never quite showed to tiny details. Also, the palace had lots of spires and we probably saw only one set in the TIE fighter game.
     
  5. CeiranHarmony

    CeiranHarmony Force Ghost star 5

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    that´s what I assume and hope. but all the pics showed smaller large free area around the palaces. and they all as spires and smaller parts of the superstructure would fit well, but wouldn´t work if you consider style, colour, etc. and how to fit them all together, I´d like to see a pic of that. weird indeed.
     
  6. GrandAdmiralJello

    GrandAdmiralJello Comms Admin ❉ Moderator Communitatis Litterarumque star 10 Staff Member Administrator

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    Interestingly, the one from TIE Fighter also appears in the SW Tales comic story "A Death Star is Born."

    McQuarrie's version also appears in Force Commander.
     
  7. CeiranHarmony

    CeiranHarmony Force Ghost star 5

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    Maybe Imperial Palace is no building, but a name for an Area on coruscant, Palpatine built his sacred buildings into. or a huge Force Illusion shapes the palace every day into another form.. lol

    a Transformer palace...
     
  8. AdmiralNick22

    AdmiralNick22 Retired Fleet Admiral star 6 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    The one by Ralph is the most accepted version of the Imperial Palace. It appears in several comics, books, and even the back cover of Planet of Twilight.

    --Adm. Nick
     
  9. burrie

    burrie Jedi Padawan star 4

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    Don't forget the DS Ending Jedi Knight one.

    Correct me if I'm wrong, but I always took it that the building was Jerec's palace(or whatever it was) on Sulon, near Baron's Hed. If I recall correctly, I never found the area around it to be very Coruscantish.
     
  10. CeiranHarmony

    CeiranHarmony Force Ghost star 5

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    it oficially is coruscant nevertheless, though it looks everything has rost!
     
  11. Rogue_Follower

    Rogue_Follower Manager Emeritus star 6 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    It could be Sulon, but the tower is different from the dark one seen earlier in the game. The cutscene shows a location covered in a bronze city with one large, imposing palace/fortress. Two moons, one large, can be seen in the background. I just always assumed it was the Imperial Palace on Coruscant.
     
  12. GrandAdmiralJello

    GrandAdmiralJello Comms Admin ❉ Moderator Communitatis Litterarumque star 10 Staff Member Administrator

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    I always felt it was Sulon.
     
  13. burrie

    burrie Jedi Padawan star 4

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    it oficially is coruscant nevertheless, though it looks everything has rost!
    Ach, it was? Where was this mentioned?

    This question has always been nagging me at the back of my head, so I'd like to see an official answer :)

    (and pardon for the hijack... please resume the discusssion of the Imperial Palace after this :p)
     
  14. CeiranHarmony

    CeiranHarmony Force Ghost star 5

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    it was mentioned in certain game magazines, the official magazine and the novels.
     
  15. burrie

    burrie Jedi Padawan star 4

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    it was mentioned in certain game magazines,

    Game magazines aren't canon :p
    the official magazine

    Which official magazine? Which issue? Which paragraph? Can you quote the relevant part of the article(s) that mention it?
    and the novels.

    You mean to tell me that the novels contain a scene that shouldn't even be in there to begin with? (ie. Kyle becoming Dark and taking over the palace) Is it some sort of a vision? I don't recall coming across that snippet in the Dark Forces Novels :confused:
     
  16. CeiranHarmony

    CeiranHarmony Force Ghost star 5

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    with game magazines I meant the official game guides.

    with official magazine I meant, Star Wars Galaxy magazine and official german sw magazine, which got its stuff from insider.

    and with novels I meant sourcebooks of the rpg


    quoting is not possible, I don´t own the magazine any longer, the sourcebooks I can check, but first comes my work, so you have to wait.
     
  17. AdmiralNick22

    AdmiralNick22 Retired Fleet Admiral star 6 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    This picture shows that most common view of the Imperial Palace on Coruscant:

    [image=http://www.princeton.edu/~mzdilla/images/cor4.jpg]

    The Imperial Palace is the large structure to the left and in the distance. This picture of the Imperial Palace has been on the backs of books, in comics, and described in several sources of EU. It also is found in the Star Wars edition of Monopoly. It fills the "Boardwalk" space and is on the back of come 1000 credit coins that the game includes.

    For all intents and purposes, this is the most official one.

    --Adm. Nick

     
  18. CeiranHarmony

    CeiranHarmony Force Ghost star 5

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    jep Nick, I favor it as well, but I wonder why then the other versions popped up and how we can explain these buildings. what are they then if not THE palace?

    the Palace of the Thrawn-Trilogy comics could be some Emperor's Residence building close to the galactic senate, because the area of the mcquarrie painting doesn´t seem to be close to the senate district we know.

    as for the tie-fighter version, this might then be yet another building, maybe the political administration building where non-senate business happened to be done? f.e. the Moffs, Grand Moffs, Grand Admiral stuff, and Palpatine having a throne room in it as well?

    the tie fighter version most looks ad works like some military building, the mcqarrie one is the TRUE palace, and sith styled. the Zahn palace is yet another palace, looking sithy but can´t be the same.

    as for the other palace versions mentioned, I think we can add them, but most of them work more or less as one of these three main types. the Jedi Knight Dark side ending palace looks exaclty like the thrawn-comic one.
     
  19. EH_Pilot

    EH_Pilot Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    :confused:

    Unless I'm blind, the TIE Fighter palace and the one of the concept art Nick provided look virtually the same.
     
  20. CeiranHarmony

    CeiranHarmony Force Ghost star 5

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    then you are blind :p

    the one from Tie Fighter has two round towers above a main building, the mcquarrie art one has a pyramide like gothic cathedral structure without any BIG towers. the tie fighter towers are larger than the palace and atop of it, like a jedi temple with two spires only, but each spire as thick as half the palace. anyone a reference pic?

    found a reference:
    mcquarrie (smaller version than above)
    http://hometown.aol.co.uk/clairegunn/palace/palace.jpg
    Tie Fighter:
    http://www.geocities.com/Area51/Zone/2004/images/coruscant.jpg

    they look similar in some design, but because of the towers on top, they can´t be the same.
     
  21. Knight1192

    Knight1192 Jedi Knight star 6

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    then you are blind :p


    Hate to tell you this, but I'm looking at both the back of the TIE Fighter box and the pic you posted. Their both one section of the Ralph McQuarrie pic close up. Same lines, same style, multiple smaller turreted towers. You don't see the whole thing, only a part of it from an angle that makes the rest hidden. Look at the palace in McQuarrie's painting, particulary the towers. They seem less to have straight lines but feel more round, climbing higher than the pic would suggest if you actually follow each to it's base.
     
  22. CeiranHarmony

    CeiranHarmony Force Ghost star 5

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    I now what you mean, but there is one thing that makes me sure it can´t be one and the same:

    in the game in a cutscene we see the whole palace once, and it is nothing more besides the thing you see in the pic I posted. the towers end there, and the main thing is the rather small part below the 2 towers. the mcquarrie one is pyramidical cathedral, while the tiefighter one is a small pyramid similar structure, wit 2 main towers on top.

    EDIT: the tie fighter palace version got a complete picture in one sourcebook or another game, I can´t recall which one, there you see the differences better. or was it a comic? maybe Tales comic? dunno
     
  23. Excellence

    Excellence Jedi Knight star 7

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    I never thought of that building on Planet of Twilight's back cover as the Impy Palace! It looks just the Blood and Honour / By the Emp's Hand one!

    Tyrant's Test, when Aloe is searching for Leia, gives good info in its interior.
     
  24. CeiranHarmony

    CeiranHarmony Force Ghost star 5

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    can you post the info, pls? thx
     
  25. black_saber

    black_saber Force Ghost star 5

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    Maybe theres more than one. Ever thought of that?
     
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