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Discussion in 'Literature' started by Rogue_Ten, Sep 7, 2002.

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  1. Rogue_Ten

    Rogue_Ten Chosen One star 7

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    There seem to be very few in Star Wars. I can think of five off the top of my head: Rhysati Ynr and Nawara Ven, Inyri Forge and Zekka Thyne, Ibitsam and Nrin Vakil, Gavin Darklighter and Asyr Sei'lar, and Corran Horn and a Selonian CorSec agent.

    In addition, all but the first one of those mentioned above ended badly, (Inyri shot Zekka, Ibitsam was killed, Asyr was forced into hiding by Borsk Fey'lya and Gavin thinks she is dead, and Corran was allergic to Selonian fur).

    Also, all of the above are from comics or novels written by Michael A. Stackpole. What does that say about other Star Wars authors, or even GL himself?

    Should there be more interspecies couples in Star Wars?

    Have we only not seen many because it is only thirty years after the fall of the Empire?

    Did I forget any interspecies couples?

    On the more wild side, if you lived in the GFFA, would you date outside your species? If so, which species and why?

    In the immortal words of Beck: Go crazy with the Cheese-Whiz.
     
  2. NIGHTBROTHER__DH

    NIGHTBROTHER__DH Jedi Youngling star 2

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    I think that Kam Solusar and Tionne are an inter-species couple, but I am not positive.
     
  3. Valiento

    Valiento Jedi Knight star 7

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    Shug-ninx and tionne were both created by interspecies couples.

    Did anyone ever wonder why tionne has alien eyes? Well it's mentioned in YJK, but only hinted at in the books before then. Tionne is only half-human. Which is enough for her to be listed as a human even though she is not fully-human.

    There is also adi gallia, who is a near-human, but is enough for her to be listed as human in some sources, even though she is not fully human. Though arguement stands that near-human are human by earth based anthropological terminology, just seperate human species. "Near-human" when used in anthropoligy denotes a species that is pre-human, doesn't have as big a brain, is only semi-bipedal, doesn't use tools yet, etc etc.
     
  4. Guinastasia

    Guinastasia Force Ghost star 6

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    Two more that didn't last:

    Face Loran and Dia Passik (see aaronallston.com look on his FAQ page about Star Wars and "Where's Dia?")

    Wedge Antilles and Qwi Xux

     
  5. Rogue_Ten

    Rogue_Ten Chosen One star 7

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    I thought about that while I was writing the title post, but I think it says in the origional guide to charaters that Tionne is a "exotic human".

    Besides, that is still only nine couples.

    C'mon people, you wanted serious and thought provoking, now you got it, so POST!
     
  6. AT-ST_DRIVER

    AT-ST_DRIVER Jedi Padawan star 4

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    i was thinking of writing a fanfic where a female Cerasi (ki-adi mundi's people) and a male Gotal fall in love or something.
     
  7. Lt.Cmdr.Thrawn

    Lt.Cmdr.Thrawn Manager Emeritus star 6 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    I'd date a Twi-Lek.
     
  8. Valiento

    Valiento Jedi Knight star 7

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    The original guide listed tionne as "human", actually in the side panel. But she is only half-human.
     
  9. AT-ST_DRIVER

    AT-ST_DRIVER Jedi Padawan star 4

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    I'd date a Twi-Lek.


    yeah, i would, too.
     
  10. ADMIRALSPUZZUM

    ADMIRALSPUZZUM Jedi Padawan star 4

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    I don't see how you could ever end up with a half human...
     
  11. Rogue_Ten

    Rogue_Ten Chosen One star 7

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    Thanks for the corrections, but get to the topic at hand.

    Think about it!

    "Huh, could he be suggesting that some Star Wars authors are bigots!"

    No, I'm not, but what if I am?

    CHALLENGE ME!

    EX:

    Generic_Poster: "Tim Zhan isn't, I love Tim Zhan. I wish I could date a Twi'lek! Ohhh, or how 'bout a Ghostling! Or even a Chiss!"
     
  12. ADMIRALSPUZZUM

    ADMIRALSPUZZUM Jedi Padawan star 4

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    erm... you can't really be bigoted agianst aliens, cause we've never met them...
     
  13. Valiento

    Valiento Jedi Knight star 7

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    According to webster one can:

    Main Entry: spe·cies·ism
    Pronunciation: 'spE-shE-"zi-z&m, -sE-
    Function: noun
    Date: 1973
    1 : prejudice or discrimination based on species; especially : discrimination against animals
    2 : the assumption of human superiority on which speciesism is based
     
  14. Rogue_Ten

    Rogue_Ten Chosen One star 7

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    Besides that, what if an author is unconciously thinking, "Oh, fans wouldn't accept a human-rodian coupling, they smell bad,".

    Is that not bigotry?
     
  15. KitFisto777

    KitFisto777 Jedi Youngling star 1

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    Twileks, Faleens (to be precise the female from the ECGt Alien Species), Zeltrons, Near-Humans, Zabaks: I like all of them.
     
  16. Darth_Elvis

    Darth_Elvis Jedi Youngling star 1

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    I really doubt there would be very many inter-species relationships. It really doesn't have much to do with predjudices. First off, no matter how well you might get along with a Bothan or Mon Calamari, could you really find one physically attractive? More often than not, humans end up with mates that are on their level of attractiveness. I very seriously doubt that many humans could find a fish (Mon Cal) or a horse (Bothan) attractive (at least I hope so). Of course, it happens, but it's going to be rare. Those individuals who are a result of a "cross-species" mating are usually a cross between a baseline human and a near human. Most near human species in the GFFA are probably decendents of baseline humans that settled on isolated colonies millenia ago (there's an article somewhere on this on this website). Other than humans and near-humans, most species wouldn't be able to cross-breed. Chimps and humans have 98 percent of the same genes and can't produce offspring. There's no way two species that evolved on different planets could successfully mate.
    So, basically, individuals from different species could not produce offspring, nor would they usually find each other at all physically attractive (again, have you ever seen a squid and thought "man, if only I could find a girl like that"?). Those two facts alone would make a romanic relationship difficult under the best of circumstances.
     
  17. Rogue_Ten

    Rogue_Ten Chosen One star 7

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    Asyr Sei'lar IS a Bothan. Even for that fact and the fact that she and Gavin Darklighter couldn't have children of their own, they had a sucessful relationship that would have lasted if not for Fey'lya. They were planning marriage and adoption. In fact, when he got married to a human later on, they adopted despite thier capability.

    Love finds a way.
     
  18. Darth_Elvis

    Darth_Elvis Jedi Youngling star 1

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    I'm not saying it would never happen. It would just be very rare.
     
  19. Obi_Wans_love_child

    Obi_Wans_love_child Jedi Padawan star 4

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    Lusa and Raynar kinda had a thing going on. Xizor tried to hook up with Leia. There was that whole wolf and eel thing from tales from the catina. If you truly look at interspecies relationships, they are tough things to have happen. Many from each species will look down on upon the couple. Not all couples can have children together. Some couples can not even express themselves fully with others. Its a difficult path to take.

    OWLC
     
  20. Valiento

    Valiento Jedi Knight star 7

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    There is one other way for species to mate together that aren't human species. That is for one of the two species to have adaptive genes, that can genetically alter dna like a virus to serve it's benefit for reproduction. Some might consider that a parasite type effect. I think it was used on babylon 5, and earth final conflict as I recall.

    Shug Nynx parent was a humanoid not a human. But he's sterile. Tionne in YJK parent was said to be a humanoid rather than human as well.


    There is the medical genetic tampering, that's used in star trek to help parents or the gametes be genetically capable of producing offspring.

    There is the outcomes that sometimes offspring will end up being sterile though with any of these.
     
  21. AT-ST_DRIVER

    AT-ST_DRIVER Jedi Padawan star 4

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    Speaking of Tales from the Tales books, remember the Gotal and the bird? they had a nice little romance going. until she ate him.
     
  22. Valiento

    Valiento Jedi Knight star 7

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    It wasn't a bird.
     
  23. Kuna_Tiori

    Kuna_Tiori Jedi Padawan star 4

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    You know, just because two individuals from different species can't reproduce doesn't make them incapable of romance. You guys as well as the EU authors need to look past convention.

    Also, there is no same-sex romance in the GFFA. What is wrong with these authors?
     
  24. ADMIRALSPUZZUM

    ADMIRALSPUZZUM Jedi Padawan star 4

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    Nothings wrong with them. It's fantasy. Relationships and all that take a back seat. No one thinks that much.
     
  25. AT-ST_DRIVER

    AT-ST_DRIVER Jedi Padawan star 4

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    It wasn't a bird.

    no, but she looked like one, didn't she? Maybe shes Veregere's second cousin, twice removed?
     
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