Interspecies relationships

A lot of people these days talk of Vong/GFFAer reproductive relationships (Viqi Shesh/Tsavong Lah) and Chiss/Human relationships.
Now I know a lot of these are in jest, but some people seem quite serious.
You only have to take basic biology to rule out Chiss/Human reproduction. If the Chiss are indeed descended from a long-ago human colony, then they are now a divergent species. Genes not compatible. Of course a "recreational" relationship could exist, as all body parts are in the right place, but there can be no "bluelatto" kids, so to speak
It's like the canine family. Human populations on Alderaan, Coruscant, and Corellia can interbreed as they are still genetically identical. (ie common dogs spread all over the world) You can get breeding between completely different dogs to produce a hybrid. A SW example of this might be a Kiffex reproducing with a mainstream human. Still close enough to reproduce. But some dogs are so different that they cannot reproduce. They have been errant from the mainstream dog family for so long that they are a new species. Divergent evolution.
Now with the Vong, that's just a common sense issue. These guys are from a different galaxy. Obviousy they're humanoid so there's some link with the GFFA that will have to be written in. But if they've been extra-GFFAlactic for as long as they have (the walking encyclopedias will tell us this sum soon ) then they are hella diverged from humanity. Now I'm assuming that the Vong are related to the GFFA humanoids.. it simply makes sense.. but if not then reproduction is doubly impossible.
Ah well I suppose if Lah and Viqi were deadset on having a kid they could bioengineer one, but that's their prerogative

That's it, please discuss it with me if you want and feel free to shoot down my 9th grade Biology (or what I can remember of it from 3 years ago since deciding science sucks and english lit rules )

Just to respond to a few likely replies before they happen:
-yes i know interspecies relationships are not new. Gavin/Asyr Sei'lar, Lando and all those Zeltron whores etc
-i don't care about your vong theories im just stating common sense that they have humanoid form so they are related to the GFFA beings. Otherwise they'd be blobular creatures

 

Oh, divergent human species doesn't rule out compatibility actually. Really considering that all past human ancestors are gone they are not quite sure how compatible they are in real life. Though hypothesises abound.

As far as on the dogs. As far I've been taught in my science classes(college level mind you), all dogs and even wolves(some scientists want to actually just combine them back into dog species in the taxanomic tree) are fully compatible. Though some dogs are so manipulated that size of body parts would make it too hard for them to mate. For instance great dane vs. chihwahwah(sp?). Yet if you were to use a bit of combining the egg and sperm in a lab, the two cells would be fully compatible. Though it's not recommended to put the fertalized egg into the mother if the mother was teh small dog.

On the reverse if the the small dog was the male, and could get it's part into the female large dog, it can fertilize her egs.

Dogs are all the same species, but have variant traits.

As for the human taxonomic tree, if they evolved into homonidea part of the tree, the common name for all species in that tree are "Human", in real world scientific terminology. In actuality an species are just variant human species.Which is not to be mixed up with varient racial variation traits.

 

Not necessarily Xan.

Think of it this way.

Grand Admiral Thrawn's species develops a special gland over the centuries which allows his people to be better resistant to the Sun and their ocular retinas change over the centuries to percieve different patterns of heat.

It's entirely possible these changes were done through genetic manipulation as well to start and became hereditary.

How would this affect their basic DNA?

 

Wouldn't be possible for to closely related species to mate but have sterile offspring? Kind of like mating a horse with a donkey produces a sterile mule. Interspecies matings are possible in GFFA. I can think of two examples Shug Ninx and that Black Sun guy that hated Corran Horn. But are these two individuals sterile?

 

That is of course if there DNA has a few more or less chromosomes.

If they have same amount of genes 46 in humans then they would be fully compatible.

Chimpanzees which is considered a human species in some taxanomic trees has 48 chromosomes, and only 1% difference of genetic material. yet with those slight 1% difference as far as I am awhare the species are incompatible.

On a side note an ass has a slight difference of chromsomes than that of a horse, and while they can have offsrping mules, are born sterile.

On an other scientific hypothesis there are some species that are supposed to be so closely related they may very well actually be the same species, but with diverse racial variation and been fully compatible(as well as being fully fertile), but that is unknown for sure since all they have to work with is fossils in human speciat variation(though dogs with wolves is a good comparison for fertile offspring of versified species).

There are way too many possibilities to lock it down to just one possibility. You can speculate but there is no evidence to say what the case and outcome may be.

 

This is a very interesting question, partly philosophical and partly technical. Because I am not a native speaker I might encouter limitations in terms of expressing myself.

An relationship among the same species doesn't necessarily lead to an offspring, even if wanted. If it is a medical issue, a lot can be done, so I guess it wouldn't be a problem for bio-engineers in the GFFA to create offspring for a human/Chiss couple, for example.

So we would have to take a look at GFFA societies. How do the different species view a relationship? Is it still viewed elemetary to find a partner for life, or do we have a lot of single parents because of longer life-spans? This would differ from species to species, so each interspecies relationship had to be judged differently. For example a relationship between a Hapan male and a Chiss female could be more or less accepted by their societies than a relationship between a Hapan female and a Chiss female.

The next question is: Do beings in the GFFA have sex for fun (I hope so) or is it mainly a bodily function to reproduce? This would differ from species to species, too.

Another aspect: Humans can have sex and give birth any given day. Other species might only be able to reproduce for a certain period of time, for example once in seven years (like the Vulcans from Star Trek).

Then: Are interspecies relationships commonly accepted in the GFFA? Is it for humans maybe ok to mate witha Twilek, but taboo to mate with a Bothan?

I would love to read about aspects like these in future star wars books. Not about the hardcore scenes, but about the social aspects.

Your turn.

 

"for example once in seven years (like the Vulcans from Star Trek)."

It was recently said in "enterprise" that they have that cycle because of repression(because of religious beliefs) rather than genetic adapatation. It is possible to reverse and have a more earth human-like cycle.

 

Not necessarily, in Star Trek an area of the Vulcan brain seems to have been adapted over the centuries to accomadate this emotional repression and singular logic.

People in the Star Wars galaxy obviously do mate for fun as Asiri/Gavin, Corran/Gods every available female in the galaxy, and a number of other individuals show. Furthermore there seems to be a great deal of variance in sexual taboos accepted in this universe.

For instance of course Gavin and Asiri and Corran and a Selonian woman despite Selonians look like well.....walking humanoid ferrets (there's a furry joke here somewhere)

There's even the subtle reference about Leona tavira having a lesbian interspecies affair with a Shivastene wolfwoman.

X-wing does show that at least in Corran and Asiri's case the relationships are incompatible for producing young.

It's obvious at least a good deal of sexual taboo exists on these things with Bothan X (as I term Borsk Feylya) showing that Gavin's lover was in no way appropriate for a woman hero of her people, humans required to have human mistresses (Han Solo trilogies) in the Empire to appear normal.

 

"Not necessarily, in Star Trek an area of the Vulcan brain seems to have been adapted over the centuries to accomadate this emotional repression and singular logic."

Where does it say that? I want to know because enterprise said something totally different.

 

Well Enterprise IS several centuries away with advanced genetics really and it was off hand reference on Voyager.

"There's been damage to the part of the brain involved in suppressing emotions"
-Hologram boy

or some such

 

Well actually humans have parts of their brain that can be used to suppress emotions. That doesn't mean we use that part, since most people like emotions, . As well all throughout the series we know that that emotions show up in vulcans from time to time throughout all the series, especially when in deep pain, or when they get into there estrus cycle. Supression is something they have to go through. They can't get complete suppression unless they go through the rite of kohlener(SP?).

 

Thought I read in one of the books too, that Gavin Darklighter had been married to a Bothan at one point...that'd make for some odd offspring.

 

Gavin wasn't married to a Bothan. Just engaged to one.

 

The Vulcans were just used as an example to show some of problems that might occur.

Don't let this thread die, it's an interesting topic.

Do we have any sources on social behaviour / taboos of the the species in the GFFA?