Iron Knights? WTH?

okay just read about the Iron Knights on Wookie. WTH? that is so stupid but I guess I'll have to accept it. What does everyone else think about inorganic beings in robots running around as jedi? Do they even have basic jedi powers such as TK?

That acronym can't be used. I have editted it to WTH in all the places it is used here.

 

They do, and they're not inorganic...entirely. The Iron Knights are droid bodies used by inanimate, living, crystaline beings to be Jedi. Fundamentally, it's not a whole lot different than using a prosthetic droid arm. The Force is in all life, and the Shard are alive. Even Yoda acknowledged that the Force was present in rocks.

 

Could those bodies hold fresh waru meat?

 

So they can use TK and other Jedi abilities? mind tricks, force leaps?

 

On their own, no, I don't think so. Well maybe TK. But anything that actually involved moving, they need to use their droid bodies.

 

Yeah, the Iron Knights are pretty stupid, almost as stupid as the fact that we're not allowed to use that acronym. What I despise about them is the way they were created, just a random bunch of old bits of WEG canon that were crudely slapped together. Thank goodness they haven't appeared in a "real" source, just backround fluff.

 

Unfortunately, they are canon, just like the super force storms of DE, the Emperor getting shot in the back by Han in DE 2, and Dork 81 pushing 17 "imperial class" star destroyers towards the end of the solar system. Even if it is in background information, it is there. Enjoy

 

Am I the only one not terribly bothered by them, at least conceptually?

 

No, you're not the only one. I like them, too.

 

I had never heard of them before this thread and after reading about them I think they're kinda cool.

 

I love the concept of the Iron Knights. Something to shake up the view on droids a bit, there. Expose the real slave class of SW.

 

No problem here, either. Some people simply don't have very open minds about... anything in SW.

- Keralys

 

I'll bet dollars to donuts Skippy was an Iron Knight with amnesia.

 

I think that someone theorized that already a few months ago, though I couldn't tell you who it was.

- Keralys

 

I'm confused. Whilst I understand that a rock can be strong in the Force, I am at a loss to explain how it (well, 'they' in the case of Shards) could be sensitive to it.

My fork might be submerged in well more mashed potato than I have in my mouth, but without tastebuds that's not really going to help it a great deal.

 

That was in Empire's End.

And what's wrong with Han shooting a sick old man? I'm getting sick of explaining this very simple event, so just look at my sig to see why Han deserves no credit for the Emperor's permanent incarceration in the Madness Beyond Death, straight from the source itself: Empire's End.

And I, for one, have nothing against Iron Knights. I don't much like the particular droid body they use for the IK in NEGTD; I think they could have used a cooler one, but still, by the by, I like Shards (but then again, I seem to like everything about the EU that tends to piss people off, like DE)

 

They're alive.

No, but if you were controlling that fork with your mind and presence in the Force, filling it with your essence, you might taste it. Then again, it doesn't really matter if you could taste it, because the point is that you were controlling that fork to, say, duel with a lightsaber. Am I making sense?

 

True, and I don't doubt that many of them are strong in the Force as a result of what their being alive creates (or whathaveyou), but I see a difference between "strength" and "sensitivity".

Unless there is an explanation for midi-chlorians being present in non-organic matter (and really, there must be if things like Shards exist) it doesn't make sense. Midi-chlorians are the taste-buds.

Or maybe they're not, maybe we're misunderstanding what they are. Maybe they're just the organisms that help Jedi to look into the future and *that's it*.

I'm not sure if that's a suitable response to my metaphor... but maybe I'm stupid.

Fork = Shard
Mashed Potato= The Force
Tastebuds = Midi-chlorians

S'all I was saying... (though now I have mental imagery of a fork duelling with a lightsaber...

Fork: "Why should knives and spoons get all the fun? Them and their damned elitest games." )

 

Well, it's a conceit, just like the humanoid form being so prevalent, and humans evolving in a separate galaxy, and midichlorians existing in all life.

I'd assume that it has something to do with the Force. The Force is present in all things and all over the universe, and communicates with all life. Life is inextricably bound to the Force, especially sentient life. Thus, the Shards must have some midichlorian analogue.

You're right, and I realized that when I went to go get my laundry after posting. A more correct response would be to say that the reason the fork wouldn't taste the mashed potatoes is because the fork is not alive. If there was a species of fork-like metal beings that evolved on some world, chances are they'd have evolved some way of taking in sensory information.

My response was more based on the problem some people have with droid Jedi.

 

Works for me.

 

Yay retcons.

 

Same here. Except for Crystal Star and GODV (although I might change my mind about that, I havn't read it. )

 

I actually like the idea and had come up with something sort of in the same neighborhood in a fanfic shortly before I first heard about them and went "oh... cool!"

 

First I've heard of crystalline life forms being sentient, but okay, sure...

And speaking of shards, Tempest was the first time it sunk in that Lumiya's lightwhip is made with pieces of Kaiburr crystal. I'm guessing she must have gotten it from Vader. He must've hidden the fact that he had his hands on a kaiburr shard from Palpy, because I'm sure the old man would think of a better use for it than putting it in an acolyte's weapon. Like maybe powering the reactor core of the Death Star....

Imagine how the Battle of Yavin might have gone if the Death Star had a droid brain and was Force sensitive...

But getting back to sanity....it's kind of cool that at this stage of history, we have Luke dealing with a threat that has its origins in the very first EU novel...

 

And the very first EU comic series.

Legacy indeed.

- Keralys