IS anakin , like a god in the star wars universe

I want to know if anakin is a god , because there is so much speculation around anakin/Darth vader. Yoda speaks of Vader as a separate person , as if Vader is an evil part of the dark side that invaded anakins body. Maybe that's why he was named Darth Vader. Because he invaded anakin. I know I'm reaching
But, in the expanded universe anakin JR believes that he is being haunted by vader in dreams, He also fears he will inherit his grandfathers dark force. so is anakin a god, being so powerful that he brings balance to the force by equality splitting his powers between the dark and the good side of the force.

NP edit: I think we're about done here.

 

Anakin Skywalker? Hardly. He was a pathetic, selfish infant who put too much stock into his own power. Sure, he was strong in the Force, but didn't you see ROTS? Obi-Wan Kenobi was able to match his power in the Force (the whole Force-pushing showdown), and was able to beat him physically (lightsaber duel).
Vader is Anakin Skywalker gone dark. He didn't have multiple personalities, as some on this board seem to think. When he went dark, he just took on a different name, the same as Count Dooku (Darth Tyrannus). He never brought balance to the Force; he was the catalyst that put the Dark Side above the Light Side. Then, by killing the Emperor, he put the Light Side back on top. No balance; balance means equality. Never were the Light and Dark in balance during Anakin's lifetime.

Now, if you're referring to Anakin Solo, no, he wasn't a god. He was pretty good as a Jedi, powerful with the Force, but let his own cockiness get in the way. His fear of becoming his namesake was conquered a long time before his death, when he discovered that he can make his own destiny.

Neither one brought balance, and neither one was a god. They were Jedi, and they were powerful... but hardly gods.

 

^QFT. Not anything else I can add to this!

 

Not true. Anakin Skywalker brought balance to the Force. Balance has been stated as harmony, which was brought back when Sidious was destroyed.

 

Please tell me which part of my statement is not true; I said Anakin did not bring balance to the Force, and he didn't. If balance has been stated as harmony, then whoever said that needs to seriously examine their understanding of the English language.
Harmony: pleasing arrangement of parts in color, size, etc.
Balance: a state of equilibrium
Meaning, balance is a state in which there is an equal amount of two or more things; in this case, the Light and Dark Sides of the Force. And there isn't an equal amount. Harmony means that it is a pleasing result; in this case, it is pleasing for the Jedi, seeing as the Dark Lord of the Sith is now dead. Anakin didn't bring harmony to the Force; he brought harmony to the Jedi.

 

True. He fulfilled the prophecy, partially himself, partially through his son.
I wouldn't call him a god. He was a pretty talented Jedi, he was aknowledged as the Chosen One, but learned both of the Light and the Dark Side. However, he made many mistakes, but was redeemed in the end by Luke. These are good, but not devine feats.

 

Obi-Wan Kenobi and Yoda where next to him, smiling down upon the boy. With the deaths of the last two Sith Lords, Anakin had finally brought balance to the Force. His destiny fulfilled, Anakin Skywalker had passed on into the embrace of the light side of the Force.

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The standpoint that this balance is achieved by destroying so many Jedi that there would be an even number of Jedi and Sith is somewhat questionable. From this way of interpreting the prophecy, the Jedi and the Sith metaphorically represent two opposing weights on a scale, with an excess of either disrupting the balance of the Force. Though the Purge left the Galaxy with one Grand Master?Yoda and Sidious?and one lesser but still powerful member?Obi-Wan and Vader?there are still loopholes in this understanding. For one thing, there were some Jedi that survived Order 66 and the Jedi Purge, such as Ikrit, Vima-Da-Boda, Aqinos, and myriad others. Conversely, there were also several Sith splinter factions and other dark side Force users present at the time of the Purge, such as the Nightsisters of Dathomir and the Prophet of the dark side. In order for this facet of interpretation to be true, there would have to have been the equivalent amount of "power" on either side of the scale; an outcome that is highly unlikely.

Proof also concludes that "bringing balance" means destruction of the Sith, as the dark side is no more than a twisted version of the Force?as evil is no more than a corrupted good. In which case, "bringing balance" is basically "cleaning" the Force of imperfections.

Another way of interpretation indicates that Anakin fulfilled this prophecy by equaling the total manifestation of the Force. This interpretation advocates that the "balance" in the Force is the balance between positive and negative energy throughout the universe. This implies that the average sentient being contributes a sizable amount of negative energy to the universe throughout their lifetime by means of what we would call normal and natural emotions like anger, jealousy, etc. Multiplied by the trillions of beings, this amounts to a massive dark side shift in the cosmic balance. According to this stand, a relatively small number of beings dedicated to pure good and service of the light side of the Force are able to balance against all the negative energy contributed by everyone else and maintain relative balance in the universe. The presence of the Sith, it is believed, serves to once again tip the cosmic scale in favor of the dark side. Therefore the claim that in order to have "balance" in the Force that there should be no Sith is relatively justified based on this particular viewpoint. Another possibility is that through his actions Vader brings balance to the Force through simultaneously fulfilling his destiny as both a Sith, by killing his master, and as a Jedi by dying on the light side.


Source.

 

Your citing Wikipedia as a source? Son, next to Supershadow, that is the worst place to use as a source. Why? 1.) It can be edited by anyone; I could go in there now, and paste my earlier post, erasing your own "evidence." 2.) It was written by fans; it's their perspective, not the actual truth

 

Yes, Lumiya was there since the Rebellion Era, but she didn't cause trouble she is causing now in the LOTF. She was dormant, so there was a balance.

Jedi do not rule anything. The Sith always want to create their Empires, factions. During the Sith rule, the Dark Side rules. The Sith use the Force to remove others from their path, to achieve their goals by any means neccessary and there isn't a balance. But the Jedi don't use the Force for such things. They help when called. After Vader killed Palpatine, the Jedi did not take the control of the Galaxy, Luke did not sit on the Emperor's throne. Neither Dark nor light ruled, therefore, there was balance.

 

Very true, she wasnt causing trouble for Luke's Jedi Order... but she still existed. I used her as an example to contradict the wikipedia article, which stated that the mere existence of a Sith tipped the scales.

 

Yes, Wookieepedia isn't always a very reliable source.

 

I admit I was just being lazy. But if someone writes something incorrect, it is usually edited back in no time. And Wookieepedia is used by so large number of fans that I take it as the public opinion. Wookieepedia is far from the site I first heard that Anakin did bring the balance, and of course I had come to that result in my head years before. It is just so plain obvious.

Now now, what could be a more creditable source than George Lucas himself? It is his movie series after all.

 

Which he has changed several times now, he doesn't know what he wants.

Anakin did not bring Balance to the force, Harmony for the lightside maybe, but not Balance to the Force.

Evil.

 

True Lucas never comes completely out and says anankin is the chosen one , but he painted a pretty clear picture of what the chosen one is expected to do and be.
Also he says the chosen one would born of the force with no father and anakin was born with no father plus his powers exceed yoda's at age 9 when yoda was about 800 plus. And no other Jedi or sith had those abilities and Lucas never said anyone else match anakins minclurin level.
Also i believe the only reason obi-won was able to match anakin in the battle on the moon was because anakin's good-side was in conflict with his dark-side clouding is powers and judgement allowing obi-won to prevail, overall obi-won said it himself anakin was far great jedi then he would ever be and he begged anakin to be patient when anakin wanted to be a master.

so back to my original question is anakin , from the story line written by Lucas is anakin the chosen one or the god of star wars.

 

Anakin is/was not a deity in the SW universe, and it was never mstated for a fact that he was the Chosen One.

Both the Jedi and the Sith have a Prophecy of a super being that will bring their side to power Anakin is a closer fit to the Jedi version, but neither side has managed to stay in power for even a hundred years since Anakin came around.

Evil.

 

I thought that the chosen one was to bring balance to the force and wouldn't pick sides , but the only prophecy i remember for the sith is the rebirth of Darth plagues the wise , who could manipulate the force. but i thought he was killed by darth situs. but if there is another prophecy then please inform me.

 

I'm refering to the Sith'ari.

The Chosen One the Jedi were looking for in the movies was more what they wanted, not what the the prophecy fortold. They were looking for someone to utterly defeat the dark side, the prophecy spoke of yen-yang, not a white circle.

Evil.

 

No, Anakin is not a god, not in any sense of the word. I am going to temporarily assume that by god, you are suggesting that Anakin is extremely powerful, maybe even the most powerful Force-user ever, which is completely false. In fact, that title (for the time being) belongs to his son, whom just about all Star Wars fans (including myself) believe to be the most powerful Force-user in the SW universe. He has proven it, in the EU mostly, and is the closest person you could find to a god in the SW universe. Anakin's "title" plays into this belief that Anakin is very powerful. This "Chosen One status" means little to nothing, seeing as the title itself was not earned, but given to him on the assumption that he would bring balance to the Force, and the fact that he had a high midichlorian count. He had great potential, yes, but he is not extremely powerful, or god-like.

Just a few other characters considered to be more powerful than Anakin (NOTE: some characters may be debatable, also, there isn't really an order in this list)

Luke Skywalker: No real explanation needed. He walks on lava, destroys AT-ATs with the Force, expands black holes, destroys armies of battle droids with a wave of his hand, defeated the reborn Emperor, defeated Vader in ROTJ, etc. etc.

Jacen Solo: No real explanation needed here either. Many fans consider Jacen to be second only to Luke, a few even believe him to be on par with him. He killed the voxyn queen, gained a bit of mental control over a dhuryam (more advanced than a yammosk, and if you have read Vector Prime you should understand why this is an impressive feat), kills several of these creatures, was a frontline warrior in the Yuuzhan Vong War, killing countless Yuuzhan Vong warriors, killed Onimi, etc. etc.

Darth Sidious: Kills 3 Jedi Masters in less than 30 seconds, duels Yoda to a draw, takes over the galaxy, throws Senate Pods around fairly easily (demonstration of power in the Force), etc.

Yoda: Duels Sidious to a draw (which puts him just about on par with Sidious), front-line warrior in the Clone Wars, fought in the Yinchorri Uprising, slayed a few Dark Jedi in his earlier exploits, etc.

Mace Windu: Duels Sidious to a draw (debate surrounding this duel, we are unsure if Sidious was fighting to the extent of his power, or if he knew Anakin was going to arrive), front-line warrior in the Clone Wars, fought in the Yinchorri Uprising, killed Kar Vastor, possesses a "shatterpoint" ability, etc.

Darth Nihilus: Devours planets with the Force, flies a ship held together by his own will, a ship pulled from the gravity well of Malachor V. Lost to the Exile only because he was left vulnerable after he tried to devour her (swallowed a wound in the Force), and was starving during that encounter. The Exile also had the help of Visas Marr and Mandalore.

Exar Kun: Defeated Vodo-Siosk Baas, destroyed an entire race of warrior Sith, defeated Sylvar (doesn't count for that much, though), separated Luke's spirit from his body, killed Gantoris, etc.

Darth Revan: Defeated Darth Malak, a Dark Side Bastila, effortlessly defeated Mandalore the Ultimate, defeated countless Dark Jedi and battle droids aboard the Star Forge, front line warrior in the Mandalorian Wars, fought in the Jedi Civil War, etc.

Obi-Wan Kenobi (debatable) : Defeated Anakin Skywalker at the height of his power (unsuited Vader, in other words), front-line warrior in the Clone Wars, participated in the Stark Hyperspace War, defeated Grievous (possibly the greatest Jedi hunter of all time, killing over a hundred Jedi), killed Darth Maul, etc.

I may have gotten just a bit sloppy in my listings and explanations, though I did not feel like listing every feat and accomplishment of these Force-users, seeing as that would require research and would take a lot of time.

 

Okay , he is not a god but is he the chosen one. he was born a virgiance within the force, so that is the prophecy of the chosen one , and he destroyed the emperor not Luke. but you are right Luke becomes pretty powerful even anakin Jr becomes powerful as well , but these are all anakins off spring, making the house of skywalker the most powerful house , plus with out anakins DNA or connection to the force Luke wouldn't be so powerful.

 

The first sentence is correct, the rest is either speculation or a ridiculous twisting of facts. Anakin/Darth Vader, was tossed down a pit while the Emperor's attention was turned toward Luke, the Emperor's death proves nothing, it doesn't display power of any kind. You also missed the fact that earlier on in the Death Star, Luke completely destroyed Vader in a duel. Next, you give Anakin credit for Luke's power, that's ridiculous. Luke and Anakin are two very different people, you can't give Anakin credit for anything that he has not achieved himself.

 

Reborn is the key word in that.

And to whoever said he was more powerfull than yoda when he was nine because of the midi.'s was wrong. If i am not mistaken midi.'s gauge potential not power.

 

Reborn is when many consider Sidious to be at the height of his power. I'm not sure what you are trying to prove here, there are a great deal more accomplishments I could add to that list that I forgot.

I'm not sure if the rest of your post is directed at me as it doesn't seem to coincide with my post, though you're right, midichlorians gauge ability to touch the Force (or potential), not power.

 

okay i can agree to say that anakin and luke are different people but luke does come from his fathers bloodline, granted i maybe wrong instating , power but anakin as darth only had 80percent of his abilities after the fight on the moon with obi-wan , so if anakin was at full strength , and i maybe wrong but lucas considers anakin the chosen one and if not the most powerful one.

 

Well, he may have become one of the most powerful if he had reached his full potential, though speculation doesn't prove anything. We know he had a great deal of potential, though that doesn't mean he is powerful.

 

Not necessarily; if what is written appears to have logic or reason behind it, then it is allowed to stay.

I have heard many say that Anakin brought balance to the Force, but I have heard no one prove it. You know what most say in response to me? "Well, Lucas said he did." That is a poor cop-out; if Lucas told you that Anakin's lightsaber blade was green in ROTS when you can clearly see that it's blue, do you say "yes, it's green" or "no, it's blue?"
Lucas can say that Anakin brought balance all he wants, but his films simply do not show this. He may have intended it to seem that way, but that's not how it played out.


plus his powers exceed yoda's at age 9 when yoda was about 800 plus. And no other Jedi or sith had those abilities and Lucas never said anyone else match anakins minclurin level

No they don't. Anakin had the potential to become more powerful than Yoda, but he could never surpass Yoda; one learns to use power, and there is no way that Anakin could learn everything that Yoda had, let alone more. Anakin may have had more raw power, but raw power is nothing without direction... and I'd put money on Yoda's experience and knowledge over Anakin's raw power any day. To use a crude analogy, say two people have guns. One, an experienced gunman, has a six-shooter, from the old west. The other, an inexperienced teenager, has a shotgun. What good is the raw stopping power of a shotgun if the inexperienced teenager has no idea how to load it, aim it while compensating for the kick? He'd be shot dead long before he put a mark on the experienced gunman. That would be Yoda to Anakin.
Look at AOTC; Dooku blasts Anakin with Force Lightning, rendering him unconscious. Dooku shot the same Lightning at Yoda, who absorbed it, saying "Much to learn, you still have." Power is nothing without the knowledge to use it.
As for midichlorians... well, Lucas said very little about them. He only said that Anakin's midichlorian level surpassed Yoda's, or any previously known Jedi. Previosly known; that doesnt include those who came after him, like Luke, or Jacen, or Kyp. So in the grand scheme of things, it means nothing.


with out anakins DNA or connection to the force Luke wouldn't be so powerful.

Nonsense. The strength of the parent has nothing to do with the strength of the child. If it did, Anakin would be about as strong as an Ewok; his mother was not Force Sensitive at all.


This whole "Vader was weaker than Anakin in his prime!" thing is rubbish. Lucas uses that excuse to "explain" why Anakin flipped around in the PT, but Vader did not in the OT. It isn't true; Vader was agile enough to go toe-to-toe with Boba Fett physically, without drawing on the Force. He was able to absorb blaster fire with the Force through his robotic hand. The suit did not limit his movements, nor did his injuries prevent him from using the Force.
Look at Empatajayos Brand, of Dark Empire; he was practically nothing but a head in a cybernetic suit, like Vader, yet he still had the same access to the Force as when he was whole.