Is Bail the King of Alderaan?

In ROTS, we find out that Bail's wife is the Queen of Alderaan, and that explains Leia being a princess.

Does that mean that Bail is the King of Alderaan? And if so, why does he serve in the Senate?

If he's king, then what's with him being Viceroy and First Chairman of Alderaan?

 

He's not the king.

 

Bail's wife is the Queen, but that does not make him the King - he is the Prince Consort.

 

I was wondering that too...I thought he might be like the Governer or something. But the Queen of Alderaan must die before ANH, because Leia does not know she has two mothers, but the one she thinks is her mother is dead. Otherwise, when Luke asks her if she remembers her mother, she would have said that of course she did, she only died at the destruction of Alderaan. However, Leia is still the princess, and Bail Organa is still in control of Alderaan at its destruction, so he might be something more than just a Prince Consort..?

 

Leia's adoptive mother dies along with Bail on Alderaan in ANH, when it is destroyed by teh Death Star.
Leia and Luke both know she is adopted, but all Leia knows of her real mother (Padmé) is the vague images and feelings she recalls in ROTJ.
Luke does specify "real" mother in that scene.

LUKE: "Leia... do you remember your mother? Your real mother?"

LEIA: "Just a little bit. She died when I was very young."

As far as Bail's official capacity goes, he was the First Chairman and Viceroy of Alderaan, and reprasentative of the Royal Family of Alderaan being the Prince Consort to the ruling monarch, the Queen, his wife.

 

As far as Bail's official capacity goes, he was the First Chairman and Viceroy of Alderaan, and reprasentative of the Royal Family of Alderaan being the Prince Consort to the ruling monarch, the Queen, his wife.

Ok, so Bail was considered a Prince? What exactly is a First Chairman and a Viceroy?

Also, if Bail was married to the Queen, why did he, himself, serve in the Senate? Why not get someone else while he stays on Alderaan and deals with planetary matters?

 

Viceroy and First Chairman is like being the Prime Minister. And, he served in the Senate because he wanted to. He liked polictics and didn't want to be a monarch.

 

Actually, I believe Bail is not descended from a royal bloodline, which is why he is Prince Consort and not King.

 

As stated throughout the thread, nowhere has any source, whether film or book, suggested or explicitly stated that Bail is the king of Alderaan.

 

I always thought he was the husband if the Queen. Not sure if that makes him a Prince or not, because he's never addressed in any of the films as Prince Organa.

 

A if Bail was a King then he shouldnt even say anything about Palpatine becoming emperor because Bail is just as guilty as he is

 

Er, Fett - that's what a Prince Consort is, a title given to the husband of a Queen.
It doesn't have to be said in the films, it is what his status is.

 

A if Bail was a King then he shouldnt even say anything about Palpatine becoming emperor because Bail is just as guilty as he is


my undrestanding is that alderaan is a constitutional monarchy, where memebers of the royal family, have no real power. however nothing forbids them running for office, which is exactly what bail, and later leia, do.

as monarchs they have no power-but as legitamatly elected rulers, they are the leaders.bail as senator and later first chairman,leia as an imperial senator.

and bail has every reason to be upset. palpatine is becoming a dictator by corrupting the system.

 

double post


sorry!

 

In the years prior to the OT, Bail Organa was identified as "Viceroy Bail Organa". It was with ROTS that we found out that he is the Prince Consort and his wife was the Queen of Alderaan. Hence why Leia is a Princess in the OT.

Leia remembers Padme, not Breha.

 

I dont think Bail is king even though his wife is Queen, Bail is what you might call the STEDMAN of alderan.... ask Oprah she can better explain this.

 

"Er, Fett - that's what a Prince Consort is, a title given to the husband of a Queen.
It doesn't have to be said in the films, it is what his status is."


Well, just because on Earth the man who marries a Queen becomes a Prince, doesn't mean that Alderaan has to follow the same custom, does it?

That said, he probably is a Prince, I'm just saying theres nothing said in any of the movies to suggest either way.

 

Well not in Rots but in ANH leia is refered to as a Princess and your highness, this makes me assume that Bail is a Monarch, a king or what have you.

 

No the monarch side comes from Leia's mother, who's a Queen! We know where Leia gets her Princess status from, and it's definatly not from Bail Organa's side of the family.

As the daughter of the Queen is a Princess (like here on Earth) I suppose it is fairly safe to assume the husband of the Queen is a Prince Consort (like here on Earth)

 

Bail is Prince Consort, which means he gets to be the Queen's husband, but doesn't have the same royal privliges a King would otherwise have. Bail, instead, took to politics anyway and became the Senator of Alderaan (as his daughter would one day do).

 

So Bail and Leia are both the same rank? Prince and Princess?

 

So Bail and Leia are both the same rank? Prince and Princess?

 

No - "Prince Consort" is not the same as "Prince", it is just a title given to the husband of a ruling monarch.
"King Consort" is a less frequently used in the same situation.
Basically, Bail is just like our [the UK's] Duke of Edinburgh - he is married to Queen Elizabeth II, but he is not the King, and he is not a Prince, but he is the Queen's Prince Consort.

Don't ask me why, it's just the way it is - literally translated: he's "the Prince that accompanies" the Queen, but he (obviously) is not her son, and therefore not a Prince, as we would understand the term.

 

I am the King of Alderaan.

 

This is what our discussions have come down to...

I've never heard of Bail as the King of Alderaan, but he gets "blowed up" anyway, and then he's the King of nothing.